Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

Funny stuff. I am senior on the ATL M88B, hoping to go to the 717A someday when I can hold it as a line holder. I used to fly the 767 Dom in ATL, but all I was doing was allnighters. No thanks. MSP 73N?? Really? Thanks for all the contract help though. Just remember, short duration, fewer RJs, ratio, 20% raise 3 years, good deal. Have a great night.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Bill, can I ask a quick question?

If you are senior on the 88, when were you hired? pre 9/11 right?

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

Why would people be happy to start on the E145 when you could also start on the E170? That's like comparing a C172 to a Citation. I fly a E145 and I would be happy to swap for an E170.

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

Republic. E170 kicks the CRJ's butt any day... For roughly the same pay over time +/- a few bucks per hour (since I would be looking at the Majors anyways down the line), I'd rather fly a mini-Airbus vs. a stretched Challenger for the entire time. I wish my POS airline would buy the E170 as I am trapped on the E135/145.

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

No worries. I was just venting - I am tired of the regionals. Operators like Jetsuite sound interesting but until they have been operating for awhile I wouldn't personally apply. The founders have some good experience and probably some cash, but the market is pretty fickle. Flying a Phenom 100 around the West Coast would probably be fun though.

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

Just curious about what newhire pay (pay range) would look like at Talon Air - say FO on the Hawker 800XP or Hawker 4000. What do these "bottom feeders" tend to pay newhires? Also, are the pilots at Talon cross-qualified on multiple aircraft (e.g., Hawker and the Beechjet or King Air) or just one type?

Talon's got a big fleet of aircraft according to the website. How many pilots total fly for Talon? Also, do these pilots tend to float around from one 135 operation to another at FRG/ISP when things don't work at Talon or do they get blackballed???? Where do they go (besides Jet Blue) when they leave?

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

True cgt. My barbie jet is ARCHAIC. I remember feeling a bit depressed about it one day and then I jumpsat on a NWA Diesel 9. I couldn't believe all of those dials and switches. I felt better about my "cutting edge" technology in comparison after that.

I'd happily trade you for your E190 if you are interested... I like that HUD!