Air Wis as a first experience for Part 121 Tr
01-02-2020, 10:42 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by IFLYACRJ
What kind of flag? Let’s say you have a class of 30 go through. They all do very well. Do you pick one or two at random to fail? I don’t think so. Where do you get such information?
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Smaller carriers tend not to be AQP though anyway, so it's probably a moot point. My experience with non-AQP is that pass fail rates are more random. That might be because of either check airman bias in the evals, or poor training going on, or both. The whole AQP system was intended to make it a more uniform training program.
01-05-2020, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by turbinepilot2
https://www.faa.gov/training_testing.../media/dmg.pdf
Smaller carriers tend not to be AQP though anyway, so it's probably a moot point. My experience with non-AQP is that pass fail rates are more random. That might be because of either check airman bias in the evals, or poor training going on, or both. The whole AQP system was intended to make it a more uniform training program.
Smaller carriers tend not to be AQP though anyway, so it's probably a moot point. My experience with non-AQP is that pass fail rates are more random. That might be because of either check airman bias in the evals, or poor training going on, or both. The whole AQP system was intended to make it a more uniform training program.
This document describes a system of data management and reporting. What addresses the previous question, namely, what determines whom is failed/how many pass? Didn’t see anything in this document that lays that out, please mansplain it to me...
01-06-2020, 05:29 AM
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The way I got it is is NOT Jim Smith did not fail his quota last month so he needs to go randomly pick 5 victims to meet his monthly quota. The way I got it is, Jim Smith might be passing or failing more than an appropriately established statistical number, and because of this we need to look at why. Maybe he will be taken off check airman status, who knows. It's a monitoring system, not a quota system. It's a quality assurance methodology. It's a vast improvement over previous methods where there was no monitoring. As pilots we would want to be under an AQP system because it's a far better monitoring system than anything previous. We all have heard the horror stories about 90% CFI failure rates at FSDOs for example.
01-27-2020, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TurnandburnCRJ2
"Can you tell me what the completion standards are? There is absolutely no syllabus or course outline for training. You're at the whim of the instructor. God forbid, you have to switch instructors in the middle of your course. Zero guidance would be more than this place provides. "
Instructor: "Well that sucked!"
Me: "Ok, how can I do it better then?"
Instructor: "Just stop sucking..."
For the record, I made it through in 10
No thanks to the douche behind us that couldn't answer questions, would only say "this needs to be done to PTS standards," couldn't tell us what PTS standards were, and then cranked the crosswind component to over 50 for most of our landings as they laughed.
01-27-2020, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AZwiz
This, 100% this. Nothing is in writing. There are some good instructors and there are some terrible ones.
Instructor: "Well that sucked!"
Me: "Ok, how can I do it better then?"
Instructor: "Just stop sucking..."
For the record, I made it through in 10 No thanks to the douche behind us that couldn't answer questions, would only say "this needs to be done to PTS standards," couldn't tell us what PTS standards were, and then cranked the crosswind component to over 50 for most of our landings as they laughed.
Instructor: "Well that sucked!"
Me: "Ok, how can I do it better then?"
Instructor: "Just stop sucking..."
For the record, I made it through in 10
No thanks to the douche behind us that couldn't answer questions, would only say "this needs to be done to PTS standards," couldn't tell us what PTS standards were, and then cranked the crosswind component to over 50 for most of our landings as they laughed.I just got done with training and we absolutely had a syllabus. Wasn't followed 100% to the letter but we had one and completed it by the end of training.
01-27-2020, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AZwiz
This, 100% this. Nothing is in writing. There are some good instructors and there are some terrible ones.
Instructor: "Well that sucked!"
Me: "Ok, how can I do it better then?"
Instructor: "Just stop sucking..."
For the record, I made it through in 10 No thanks to the douche behind us that couldn't answer questions, would only say "this needs to be done to PTS standards," couldn't tell us what PTS standards were, and then cranked the crosswind component to over 50 for most of our landings as they laughed.
Instructor: "Well that sucked!"
Me: "Ok, how can I do it better then?"
Instructor: "Just stop sucking..."
For the record, I made it through in 10
No thanks to the douche behind us that couldn't answer questions, would only say "this needs to be done to PTS standards," couldn't tell us what PTS standards were, and then cranked the crosswind component to over 50 for most of our landings as they laughed.I was an Instructor years ago at AWAC before moving on. It’s a program that takes a lot of study and work but it is doable with the right attitude. I would agree it’s challenging, but most 121 training is. In my experience when I was there, they were more than fair with giving ALOT of extra help when it was needed.
01-27-2020, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Minimums
In my experience when I was there, they were more than fair with giving ALOT of extra help when it was needed.
01-28-2020, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WiscoAviator
Not once in training did I ever get the feeling that I didn't know what was expected of me.
01-28-2020, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WiscoAviator
Not once in training did I ever get the feeling that I didn't know what was expected of me.
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