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flynd94 05-01-2020 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3046548)

Personally, I don't see how they permanently cut UAX in favor of mainline medium term. It's down gauging in a time of low demand, and it's cheaper labor. Why am I wrong?

It’s called scope and the UA pilots won’t give an inch. The only way is they BK

DarkSideMoon 05-01-2020 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3046564)
It’s called scope and the UA pilots won’t give an inch. The only way is they BK

Don’t need scope to run the 50 seat jets.

GA2Jets 05-01-2020 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3046575)
Don’t need scope to run the 50 seat jets.

Well technically I think I has to be 90% or less of narrow body flying.

Still though, in an environment of down gauging, 50 seats are less restricted than say 76 seaters.

dremaldent 05-01-2020 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3046584)
Well technically I think I has to be 90% or less of narrow body flying.

Still though, in an environment of down gauging, 50 seats are less restricted than say 76 seaters.

This is correct. 90% of narrow body is still (normally) a lot of flying though.

point80 05-01-2020 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3046548)
Instead of this, let's engage in wild, irresponsible, completely uninformed speculation about the future of the UAX carriers!

UA said nothing really about UAX in their town hall today, but they were beating the "get ready for furloughs" drum hard. I really thought SK was gonna cry which...well it's doesn't inspire confidence.

Personally, I don't see how they permanently cut UAX in favor of mainline medium term. It's down gauging in a time of low demand, and it's cheaper labor. Why am I wrong?

Because when mainline renegotiated there contract they made sure that mainline has to keep a percentage of flying in house. Mainline pilots learned for the ‘08 recession where regionals were able to expand before furloughed mainline got a call back.

idlethrust 05-01-2020 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3046548)
Instead of this, let's engage in wild, irresponsible, completely uninformed speculation about the future of the UAX carriers!

UA said nothing really about UAX in their town hall today, but they were beating the "get ready for furloughs" drum hard. I really thought SK was gonna cry which...well it's doesn't inspire confidence.

Personally, I don't see how they permanently cut UAX in favor of mainline medium term. It's down gauging in a time of low demand, and it's cheaper labor. Why am I wrong?

I wish they would cut out all rjs .
it would sting for a min, we would have to go work at Walmart or drive a fed ex truck for awhile but in the long run it will be more mainline jobs for us all .

BcULstDaBlodyWr 05-04-2020 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3045907)
I’m embarrassed there are people this ignorant flying professionally at my airline. They’re living in America, paying American taxes, supporting the American economy. You want to prevent hiring in the future? Sure. But demanding revoking their green cards now? you’re just wanting to take away jobs from people solely because they were born somewhere else because you didn’t prepare for a downturn. Don’t pretend it’s anything about “American jobs”.

They’re the worst to fly with. They always blame everyone else for their problems. Like stop blaming women and immigrants on the fact you can’t afford your three divorces and are a regional lifer. Take some responsibility for where you’re at in life.

climb150 05-04-2020 04:34 PM

Nobody was talking about revoking green cards. The conversation was about "short term" visa's like H1B.

It was also pointed out that pilots in the USA on this type of Visa would be a few hundred at most. Not exactly a flood.

I pointed out that there are thousands of Americans working abroad on similar visa's in countries that may not need them now either.

Da Vinci 05-05-2020 06:39 AM

Who else is not ready to see where the re alignment bid puts themselves at end of day tomorrow. There’s going to be a lot of pilots in two bases. I was expecting the company to maybe put out a program in place like others have where it knocks min guarantee down to like 30 or 45 hours and you have them month off.

RabidW0mbat 05-05-2020 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Da Vinci (Post 3049357)
Who else is not ready to see where the re alignment bid puts themselves at end of day tomorrow. There’s going to be a lot of pilots in two bases. I was expecting the company to maybe put out a program in place like others have where it knocks min guarantee down to like 30 or 45 hours and you have them month off.

My guess is we won’t see the results until next week. Contractually they have a week at the close of any vacancy / realignment. Welcome to extended reserve, at least there’s a Dunkin by the ORD crew room.


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