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Hedley 01-13-2021 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Duchess (Post 3180933)
Is there any risk to scope IF United declares bankruptcy (chapter 11), Kirby could ask the judge that his major competitor (American) allows for small RJ at seats of 65 or less, and that unless United gets on an even playing field with American, they will not be able to compete?

At this point, UAL isn’t at any real risk of BK. They have access to a ton of cash, the cash burn is down, a vaccine is being distributed, and travel will return. It may not be at 2019 record levels for several years, but it will be cash neutral, or even profitable, although a smaller airline, well before the money runs out. Of the big 3, AA is in the worst financial shape, and BK is not a certainty for them either. As we recover from this, Kirby is going to want to go after American and try to catch Delta. I just don’t see him doing that with tired old single class 50 seaters, especially when Delta will be exclusively 70+ seats in the near future. Moving forward, cash is going to be tight and I think that Kirby will decide to get cheap used 737/320 types rather than spend the money to add another fleet type. He’s also calculating the cost of more restrictive scope language that the addition of more UAX 76 seaters would trigger. Adding used 737/320 aircraft could be cheaper over the next 10 years than incurring the cost of an additional fleet type and more restrictive scope.

WhiskyWhisky 01-13-2021 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 3180438)
This is when I wish this board wasn’t anonymous and we had a no fly list...

When you don't have a factual stance to back up your position, resort to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture of the person you disagree with.

There is a political party that embraces it wholeheartedly right now.

DarkSideMoon 01-13-2021 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky (Post 3181049)
When you don't have a factual stance to back up your position, resort to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture of the person you disagree with.

There is a political party that embraces it wholeheartedly right now.

This isn't cancel culture, it's personal accountability!

You're free to torture whoever flies with you with your conspiracies, they're free to make every effort to bid avoid you!

Escargot 01-13-2021 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky (Post 3180874)

Nobody is going to invest Millions into old CRJ's to integrate WiFi technology.

I heard ZW was doing exactly that, upgrading the 200s with the Wi-Fi.

Claxstarr 01-13-2021 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3181097)
I heard ZW was doing exactly that, upgrading the 200s with the Wi-Fi.


Ewwwww...
I wonder how much that costs per bird??

RabidW0mbat 01-13-2021 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky (Post 3181049)
When you don't have a factual stance to back up your position, resort to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture of the person you disagree with.

There is a political party that embraces it wholeheartedly right now.

you sound like a joy for a 4 day...if you’re a CA and wonder why your FO is quiet and nods a lot, you, you’re why they’re quiet and doesn’t want to engage.

idlethrust 01-13-2021 05:57 PM

[QUOTE=Escargot;3181097]I heard ZW was doing exactly that, upgrading the 200s with the Wi-Fi.
Thats bs

amcnd 01-13-2021 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=idlethrust;3181183]

Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3181097)
I heard ZW was doing exactly that, upgrading the 200s with the Wi-Fi.
Thats bs

likley they are, OO was/is also. Its a portable system. Not hardwired into the aircraft...

climb150 01-13-2021 10:16 PM

It doesn't actually need to be connected to the internet. Just an inflight system for people to watch movies on their personal devices will do. I have been told that a non internet entertainment system cost s less than 10k per aircraft and as another person said, is easily transferred between airframes.

Escargot 01-13-2021 11:40 PM

[QUOTE=idlethrust;3181183]

Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3181097)
I heard ZW was doing exactly that, upgrading the 200s with the Wi-Fi.
Thats bs

I heard it in the crew room, so it must be true.


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