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IDriveJets 01-14-2021 05:21 AM

Lol who cares whether we fly a 200, 700, 900 or 1000 or a hunk of junk? What matters is having a job and stable income with benefits.

The WiFi thing is comical...#priorities

People have been talking for two decades about 50 seat flying going away...AND IT IS STILL AROUND!!!

If it does goes away, two things will happen:

1) We retrain on new/different planes if we get them.

2) We lose our jobs in which case we spruce up our resumes and go work somewhere else or do something else.

Right now the focus is getting us furloughed lot back on property and working again. I mean hell right now we’re essentially practicing being jobless anyway.

idlethrust 01-14-2021 05:32 AM

[QUOTE=Escargot;3181240]

Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3181183)
I heard it in the crew room, so it must be true.

Gotta be true
I heard it from a fa

GA2Jets 01-14-2021 07:24 AM

Seriously what gives with the company on this PPP money? So many other companies have notified their employees, a lot rehired and back paid them already! For pete's sake how did they and the union not have a plan ready for if this money came down from on high??

IDriveJets 01-14-2021 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3181340)
Seriously what gives with the company on this PPP money? So many other companies have notified their employees, a lot rehired and back paid them already! For pete's sake how did they and the union not have a plan ready for if this money came down from on high??

the expression is “we are just a number like any other number.”

I quit being miserable weeks ago because I realized a Board or managers don’t care if my family eats or starved or if we have a roof or we’re on the street.

When we were shown a door (with a phone call option) it was basically “sorry about this but you’re on your own from here.”

There really isn’t any flying from what I’m hearing so I highly doubt they’re in any rush to bring us back. After all it’s corporate America.

Hedley 01-14-2021 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3181482)
the expression is “we are just a number like any other number.”

I quit being miserable weeks ago because I realized a Board or managers don’t care if my family eats or starved or if we have a roof or we’re on the street.

When we were shown a door (with a phone call option) it was basically “sorry about this but you’re on your own from here.”

There really isn’t any flying from what I’m hearing so I highly doubt they’re in any rush to bring us back. After all it’s corporate America.

You have learned a valuable lesson that will serve you well. I learned the same lesson after 9/11. Never drink the Kool-Aid, and remember that we are all just contract labor and a line on an expense report. It’s the same deal if you are a senior legacy 777 captain or a brand new regional first officer.

LAXtoDEN 01-14-2021 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3181482)
the expression is “we are just a number like any other number.”

I quit being miserable weeks ago because I realized a Board or managers don’t care if my family eats or starved or if we have a roof or we’re on the street.

When we were shown a door (with a phone call option) it was basically “sorry about this but you’re on your own from here.”

There really isn’t any flying from what I’m hearing so I highly doubt they’re in any rush to bring us back. After all it’s corporate America.

It took you being furloughed to figure out you’re just a number? Being a number has it’s rewards too. A seniority list creates easier career progression with erasing politics out of the mix.

On a positive note this has helped empathize having someone by your side who can cover your ass when times are tough, along with having a secondary income available.

IDriveJets 01-14-2021 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3181535)
It took you being furloughed to figure out you’re just a number? Being a number has it’s rewards too. A seniority list creates easier career progression with erasing politics out of the mix.

On a positive note this has helped empathize having someone by your side who can cover your ass when times are tough, along with having a secondary income available.

I’m an immigrant and I had my own businesses before I came to America. This is also my first job ever so I suppose I had to learn the hard way ie through furlough.

LAXtoDEN 01-14-2021 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by IDriveJets (Post 3181651)
I’m an immigrant and I had my own businesses before I came to America. This is also my first job ever so I suppose I had to learn the hard way ie through furlough.

Well we’re glad to have you in the states, wish you the best. I can tell you we have opportunities for work in “trades”. Nobody wants to be a electrician or plumber anymore so the shortage is real, and the pay is real.

Even when you’re recalled you can use that as second income on your free time.

Escargot 01-15-2021 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3181340)
Seriously what gives with the company on this PPP money? So many other companies have notified their employees, a lot rehired and back paid them already! For pete's sake how did they and the union not have a plan ready for if this money came down from on high??

Per treasury.gov the deadline for application is....... today. Then something like 72 hours to recall. If we don't hear anything by then, don't hold your breath, cause it probably ain't gonna happen.

czab 01-15-2021 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3181699)
Per treasury.gov the deadline for application is....... today. Then something like 72 hours to recall. If we don't hear anything by then, don't hold your breath, cause it probably ain't gonna happen.


I’m on furlough and got paid by AW this morning. It wasn’t the sweet back pay I was expecting but it’s something, so that’s a good sign


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