They only have the two in May on the calendar for now, at least from what they told me.

I was told that the plan is 2 classes a month for the foreseeable future, they just haven't set dates for June and the following months

New Hire / Training
 

New hire here. Coming to Appleton ‘soon’(May TBD). Looking for some training insight such as, but not limited to; where do we stay, is there a shuttle, is the training center really at the airport, where is good to eat, how big is the info firehose & what training materials are provided?

I’m 40+, retired military and transferring from another regional. So, not my 1st trip thru a program, just looking for some insight into life in Appleton

TIA,
”KNUT”

Multiple options but most likely the Hampton inn by the mall. There is a shuttle, it should take you anywhere you need to go. Bring your car if it isn’t an insane drive. Training center is actually at the airport unless they start using the downtown location again. Too many good places to eat to list, but try the black otter supper club for a true wisconsin experience. It’s about 30 mins from ATW so you’ll either need a car or make friends with someone with a car. By the hotel there’s a decent amount of chain restaurants. Downtown has some great eats, check out Katsu-ya if you like Japanese. You really can’t go wrong if it’s on College Avenue.

lots of info. All materials you need will be provided. Pay attention, learn what they want you to learn and you’ll be fine. The program has been massively revamped since the horror stories you may have heard.

It is fast paced. Take it seriously if they say “know X by Y”. For example, they’ll tell you to know the flows/callouts before CPT. If you show up to CPT expecting to be taught the flows/callouts, you will almost certainly not make it through the first time.

why are you transferring from another regional in this environment? Not trying to take a shot at you, just genuinely curious.

Any of the food from Mai’s deli down on College. The breakfast burger at Home Burger Bar. The old fashioned at the Ambassador.

I feel bad for new guys who won’t get the Red Lion/Downtown experience...

All good info & appreciated. CBT’s on a company iPad, or are they ‘online’/company website somewhere? My 30 mins w/HR & the hiring CA didn’t leave a lot of extra time, & there has been little ‘what to expect’ correspondence so far (not a complaint, just a factual comment)

South Texas is a bit of a drive, but I plan to rent a car on off days if no one else drives. The local baseball seems a decent value as well. Must eat cheese curds & drink beer....responsibly

Thanks again!

Was a new hire here(current place) and am fairly low on the ‘too be recalled/retrained list’ & 1 year ago was my type ride at current company & have had zero...... zero comms from the training department since w/re to the resumption of the training process or lack there of. Which, apparently at this point will be a complete redo as if it was day one all over again. So, “it’s time” to get in a cockpit, any cockpit and realize my post military aspirations. & at this point, May start sounds better than sometime between August & never, so here I am 😎

noted, thx for the reply! 👍🇺🇸

I second Mai’s Deli...Downtown ATW is a hidden gem and it’s sad that new hires may not get to experience it.

Damn... it is refreshing to read conversations like these again! Good luck at Air Whiskey! As many have said, Eastern Wisconsin is a hidden gem.. Enjoy!

Hampton shuttle runs until 10:30-11, definitely time and opportunity to experience downtown.

Yes
that Red Lion is a dump
the Hampton is 1000 x better
it’s just not downtown but that’s ok

Id rather catch the shuttle to go downtown rather than sleep in a 1 star hotel that’s in serious need of renovation

I like Red Lion. I think it's a nice enough hotel in a cool location.

I’m not sure you’ll find many that agree with you. I can see how it “used” to be a nice hotel, but years of little investment left it it pretty rough shape. I didn’t complain about it to the Crew Conx only because of the excellent location.

I’m with you. The Red Lion was a great place to stay even though it is older. You can tell that it used to be the upscale place to stay in Appleton.

Would it be worth driving 15 hrs to have my car during training?

makes sense. Thanks for answering.

Did the red lion go under due to covid, or is the company just switching hotels?

Nice enough??
Evidently we have different definitions of nice .

just switched.

also want to know whether this would be worth it. I think I was told 2 weeks in Appleton and then sent home before doing systems somewhere else, then procedure training somewhere else, and sims in Atlanta potentially? If we will be moving around that much, might not be worth it

Different strokes, it's just my opinion.

no idea at this point. When I went through we had about 4 weeks in ATW then we kind of split up for CPT / SIM’s. Some people in CVG, some in ATL. We’ve had sims in PHX and STL too though that’s not happening anymore. Basically hurry up and wait. That said, 2 weeks of Indoc and 2 weeks of systems should be a safe bet.

I’m in the 5/9 class, and they said 4 weeks in ATW and 3-5 weeks in ATL. The latter is only a few hrs away from home, so I’m strongly considering driving for all of it.

I saw a piece of paper when I was @ Triangle Plaza back on the 1st. The CPT segment showed ‘either’ ATW or ATL as a location. But I am considering driving up too.... from S.Tx 😅. & then drive on to ATL whenever. See ya next month! 😎

I'm sure red lion was nice when it was built...50 years ago. Too bad it never got renovated or at least kept the mold to a breathable level. I do miss the hot tub that was permanently closed. So glad we're out of there.

I live 3 hours away and drove to training. I brought my own food and cooked 3/4 of my meals. The cost savings right there justified the drive, plus I was able to take my class mates anywhere they needed to go on OUR schedule not the hotels

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Will you drop me off at the local gentleman’s club ? I would appreciate it, so would strawberry, she’s my favorite!! 😂😂

Anyone in the 4/23 class? Wondering if they have provided you any study materials or further details (class size, etc). I'm in the 5/23 class and was told I wouldn't receive anything till day one. I want to get a jump start on as much as I can.

4/26 class here. I was told the same. I’ve also heard differing opinions on preparation though. From what I’ve seen, it’s about a 50/50 split between those who will tell you not to jump ahead because they will teach you the material in the order they want you to learn it, and those who will tell you to go on quizlet and start studying limitations, flows, and memory items weeks in advance. I’ve started reviewing the limitations so far but that’s about it. Would like to hear some more opinions on this

no. Just study for the ATP written if you still have to do that. If not, get your affairs at home in order so you can focus on training. Learn things the way the company wants you to learn them. I appreciate the willingness to get ahead, but unlearning something you memorized because of a lack of context is even harder. It’s doable, just trust the process. Do the homework you get sent home with each day with the class, and then flash cards for memory items and limitations.

I personally enjoyed the downtown hotel... Dive bars yards away plus the creepy sports bar in the lobby and the underground pool/gym made for some eventful group study sessions. If I recall correctly the mall has a brewery/restaurant that was worth a visit (Fox River, maybe?). One guy in my class had a car, an asset that proved invaluable for grocery trips and general travel when necessary. Strongly encourage bringing one of you have the means.

Also, check the schedule for the Curling club downtown. Drinking PBR with the locals while they tried to teach us to sling rocks is still one of my fondest memories.

Indoc and Systems are easy. Study CPT like mad. Had several classmates make it all the way to CPT and bombed. They were given 2nd chances and still Bombed. CPT you must have down pat. Flows and calls. No mistakes. No excuses. It will also make sims that much easier. Remember ZW has very high standards in the Sims. 5000 hour corporate pilots bombed the sims at ZW due to their unnatural inability to fly and do CPT correctly. Don't worry about Indoc or Systems. Get your $%^& in gear for CPT. You can buy me a beer later.

That hotel is used at OO for overnights, and you’re right I loved that hotel and saw some of you guys roaming around. Definitely a nice set up for training.

I was told the visiting team playing the Green Bay Packers stays at that hotel as well?

they do, which must be a let down as an NFL player. The area is great. Home Burger Bar’s breakfast burger and karaoke on the weekends. The Ambassador for craft cocktails, and Cleo’s for a good old fashioned WI local hangout.

Don't study ahead. A lot of stuff on quizlet is outdated. New limitations have been added and some are no longer boxed. IAC is different. FOM is different.

Trust me you don't want to have to unlearn crap you learned the wrong way.

The training is tough, but if you have a good attitude and make sure you're teachable you'll make it through. Study your butt off after class. Be humble and be a sponge.

I made it through, you can too!If you think the NFL guys stay in the same types of rooms we stayed you're smoking some stuff I'd like to hit as well!



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They stay in the exact same rooms we have, they were even right next to us one time with all the Gatorade bottles in the hallway.

when it comes to training, be a sponge but realize that every instructor will care about something else the previous instructors don’t even mention. Be prepared to cooperate to graduate and be ready to master whatever things each and every instructor will care about.

the West tower rooms are all the same...

I stand corrected. I could have sworn the rooms were different with keyed access to the specific floors.

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