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DarkSideMoon 05-29-2021 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 3242407)
+1
if Covid taught us anything, you never plan on per diem / OT. I went from averaging 100+ credit hrs a month to min guarantee for almost a year. Budget for the bare minimum.

Yep. I easily averaged twice guarantee pre-covid. It’s nice fun money but if you build a budget around it you’re going to have a bad time.

tonsterboy5 05-29-2021 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Cartil (Post 3242258)
I have a question regarding pay. Could you guys tell me how much you're bringing home a month gross roughly? I know everyone situation is a bit different but I am looking at buying a house and I'd like to have an idea of what to expect.

Also, I see that companies like PSA and Endeavor base pay is $51 to $52 per hour while AW is $37 for the first year. Does it all average to be about the same at the end of the month due to the contracts or do some companies just pay that much more than others?

Thank you for the help!

if you contribute anything to your 401k and take the health insurance expect to bring home roughly $1600 a month, maybe 2000 with per diem and a little bit of overage.

flynd94 05-29-2021 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Cartil (Post 3242283)
Thank you for your input! I'll definitely do that!

For planning purposes, how much per diem and overages can I expect on average per month?


Always budget your finances off only your guarantee. When you hit second year pay, live like your are on first year pay. Pay down your debt and have a minimum of 6 months of living expenses in the bank.

I lived through the 2008 crash. I was furloughed at the regionals. Currently living thru the pandemic on second year pay at a legacy.

SuperFlier 05-29-2021 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3242522)
Always budget your finances off only your guarantee. When you hit second year pay, live like your are on first year pay. Pay down your debt and have a minimum of 6 months of living expenses in the bank.

Best advice I’ve seen posted here in a long time.

GA2Jets 05-30-2021 03:00 PM

Anyone hear any fun news or rumors lately?

TransWorld 05-30-2021 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3243256)
Anyone hear any fun news or rumors lately?

Sure. Great Lakes is buying FedEx.

Yep, you heard it here first.

idlethrust 05-30-2021 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3243256)
Anyone hear any fun news or rumors lately?

No rumor , hard fact . There is no big announcement coming, no new flying or airframes to announce. Adding the 7/9 to the cert in hopes of a fallout with Mesa and AA or G7 and UA.
No new flying beyond the ua contract, which is up in a year or two .
In the interim the dueces are getting more tired , old and worn out every day . Definitely a dying breed .
This came straight from someone in the know .
Too much too late probably. Should have persued a 7/9 or a 175 program years ago like Mesa did instead of waiting until the 13 th hour .

Cess310 05-31-2021 07:39 AM

So is air Wisconsin now offering ATP/CTP classes? Looks like they updated their page

prt135 05-31-2021 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Cess310 (Post 3243461)
So is air Wisconsin now offering ATP/CTP classes? Looks like they updated their page

What exactly was updated?

Cess310 05-31-2021 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by prt135 (Post 3243475)
What exactly was updated?

The air Wisconsin page was updated on pilot central.
It says in bold letters about offering atp/ctp classes and other things like commuter policies, about adding crj7/9 in July and June etc

RabidW0mbat 05-31-2021 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Cess310 (Post 3243511)
The air Wisconsin page was updated on pilot central.
It says in bold letters about offering atp/ctp classes and other things like commuter policies, about adding crj7/9 in July and June etc

anything you hear about the 700/900 is only about it being added to our certificate, NOT actually flying it in revenue service, if anyone tells you differently because “they know someone” they’re yanking your chain.

TransWorld 05-31-2021 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Cess310 (Post 3243511)
The air Wisconsin page was updated on pilot central.
It says in bold letters about offering atp/ctp classes and other things like commuter policies, about adding crj7/9 in July and June etc

It also says they are offering a $5,000 new hire bonus.

TT15 05-31-2021 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3243590)
It also says they are offering a $5,000 new hire bonus.

The $5,000 bonus is a requirement of the contract.

itsmytime 05-31-2021 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by prt135 (Post 3243475)
What exactly was updated?

also says cockpit procedures training is done in a interactive GFS. That’s nice if they’ve moved on from the paper tiger on steroids.

DarkSideMoon 05-31-2021 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 3243667)
also says cockpit procedures training is done in a interactive GFS. That’s nice if they’ve moved on from the paper tiger on steroids.

They have. Definitely an upgrade.

Imapylot 05-31-2021 07:04 PM

I just had to google GFS. That thing looks like it would be helpful.

Cess310 06-03-2021 08:25 AM

I just had the 30 min interview, (previous CJO), they said they will get back to me later this week.
Anyone else had that happen?

10L 4 Spacing 06-05-2021 07:36 PM

They have been offering CTP/ATP classes since 2014...I taught the first one. Unless they stopped at some point.

EhV8R 06-05-2021 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by 10L 4 Spacing (Post 3246130)
They have been offering CTP/ATP classes since 2014...I taught the first one. Unless they stopped at some point.

They were outsourcing ATP-CTP when I went through in 2019.

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