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Old 07-10-2021, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
That kind of thing might have an SSI label at the bottom of the page in the SOP.

If so, don't want to get caught posting it on the interwebs, that's a technical party foul.

Best to get that kind of thing from a buddy who works there.
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Memory Items and Limitations of a United States FAA certified airplane? Part of SSI? Really?
Company specific GOM stuff, sure- but aircraft limitations?
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Memory Items and Limitations of a United States FAA certified airplane? Part of SSI? Really?
Company specific GOM stuff, sure- but aircraft limitations?
Some companies make it SSI to protect the intellectual property. When I was at Xjet we had a FO leave for C5. He gave them all of the training materials and C5 used them verbatim
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Some companies make it SSI to protect the intellectual property. When I was at Xjet we had a FO leave for C5. He gave them all of the training materials and C5 used them verbatim
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But the limitations of a specific airplane are never going to be the intellectual property of any operator.

That was my only point.
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Originally Posted by klondike View Post
Sure,
But the limitations of a specific airplane are never going to be the intellectual property of any operator.

That was my only point.
guys on APC love to scream out SSI, and OPSEC! You could ask where is the restroom in terminal 2 at o’hare, and someone will hit you with that.
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Originally Posted by klondike View Post
Sure,
But the limitations of a specific airplane are never going to be the intellectual property of any operator.

That was my only point.
Every airline has specific limitations, memory items, etc.. that may be different even for the same type. Everyone reading this who has actually worked for an airline knows this. They become limiting and actual law just by virtue of being in the airline's SOP / GOM and being approved by the FAA. In the 121 world, manuals pretty much trump everything you could get from online or a pilot shop. There is no harm in getting to know an airplane in general before you work somewhere. But don't really start studying i.e. memorizing stuff before the airline / operator you are going to work for actually sends you what to study before your class date.
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Every airline has specific limitations, memory items, etc.. that may be different even for the same type. Everyone reading this who has actually worked for an airline knows this. They become limiting and actual law just by virtue of being in the airline's SOP / GOM and being approved by the FAA. In the 121 world, manuals pretty much trump everything you could get from online or a pilot shop. There is no harm in getting to know an airplane in general before you work somewhere. But don't really start studying i.e. memorizing stuff before the airline / operator you are going to work for actually sends you what to study before your class date.
To be more specific, there could be (and often are) limitations that are more restrictive than the manufacturer of the airplane. The rule is in 121, the more restrictive is law, and the company manuals trump the FAR's as long as they are legal (and always more restrictive.)
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