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Old 11-05-2023 | 04:14 PM
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I’m qualified for DEC and live near a junior base. After seeing a new contract get approved and the no contract bonus structure, I’m seriously considering Air Whisky. Can anyone shed light on the following random questions/thoughts?
  • How many long call/short call/airport reserve shifts should I expect? Are they 12hrs/2hrs/15 min or something similar for report time?
  • Are there time slots for reserve that go junior (like 0500 starts, etc)?
  • How many legs per day are average? 4?
  • How many years of longevity equate to how many weeks vacation? The web only says “up to 35 days…”
  • If I rode jumpseat with AW guys for a week, what would everyone be complaining about?
  • What’s training pay for the 2-3 months while I’d be getting qualified?
  • Is there a minimum for hours/days that you can’t drop below per month? I’d assume it’s all dependent on having coverage, which is likely nil for CAs from what I’m reading elsewhere, but just curious if there’s a min contractually.
  • Is Line Check Airman pay decent if I ever went that route?
  • In a previous life, there were tactics where you pick up premium flying and then got the next reserve day off - are there similar ways to max perform pay for a bottom of the list guy? I get it that all things hinge on seniority, and a DEC would stay low seniority forever due to FO upgrades, so tactics that a junior guy could actually achieve seem like the most applicable if they exist?
  • How much turnover/attrition is happening lately? Seems like it’s got to be pretty extreme considering the bonuses being offered?!


Thanks for your time!!
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Old 11-06-2023 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Spade
I’m qualified for DEC and live near a junior base. After seeing a new contract get approved and the no contract bonus structure, I’m seriously considering Air Whisky. Can anyone shed light on the following random questions/thoughts?
  • How many long call/short call/airport reserve shifts should I expect? Are they 12hrs/2hrs/15 min or something similar for report time?
  • Are there time slots for reserve that go junior (like 0500 starts, etc)?
  • How many legs per day are average? 4?
  • How many years of longevity equate to how many weeks vacation? The web only says “up to 35 days…”
  • If I rode jumpseat with AW guys for a week, what would everyone be complaining about?
  • What’s training pay for the 2-3 months while I’d be getting qualified?
  • Is there a minimum for hours/days that you can’t drop below per month? I’d assume it’s all dependent on having coverage, which is likely nil for CAs from what I’m reading elsewhere, but just curious if there’s a min contractually.
  • Is Line Check Airman pay decent if I ever went that route?
  • In a previous life, there were tactics where you pick up premium flying and then got the next reserve day off - are there similar ways to max perform pay for a bottom of the list guy? I get it that all things hinge on seniority, and a DEC would stay low seniority forever due to FO upgrades, so tactics that a junior guy could actually achieve seem like the most applicable if they exist?
  • How much turnover/attrition is happening lately? Seems like it’s got to be pretty extreme considering the bonuses being offered?!


Thanks for your time!!
why not apply to an LCC? Heck Delta/United/AA are hiring people with 2000 TT and 0 PIC.
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Old 11-06-2023 | 03:40 PM
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It’s a really, really long story. Haha

The proximity to the junior base is key and roots are planted deeply on multiple levels now.
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Old 11-27-2023 | 09:19 AM
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Are DEC's on reserve in KDAY for awhile or are there lines offered? TIA!
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Old 11-27-2023 | 02:37 PM
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Are DEC's getting anything other than DAY for a base? if not how long would it take to get ORD or MKE?
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Old 11-27-2023 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle driver
Are DEC's getting anything other than DAY for a base? if not how long would it take to get ORD or MKE?
I saw two get MKE recently
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Old 11-27-2023 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1CRJDRVR
I saw two get MKE recently
they got it right out of training?

I would have a one leg, one hour commute to ORD or MKE but DAY would be a two leg, who knows how long commute and I don't think I'd be will to do that even for a $200k bonus.
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Old 01-06-2024 | 08:41 AM
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How is seniority in a new hire class decided? age? SSN? thumb wars?
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Old 01-06-2024 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jungle driver
How is seniority in a new hire class decided? age? SSN? thumb wars?
You have to challenge everyone to a duel and last man standing is the most senior.
it seems the older pilots always win.
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Old 01-16-2024 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 1CRJDRVR
You have to challenge everyone to a duel and last man standing is the most senior.
it seems the older pilots always win.
We may be old and we may not be able to see the target, but we can still see the front sight with cheaters, and we can still shoot.

He who fights fair has a fool for a conscience.
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