saab2000

A place where his personal life is a lot better even though it's a 'regional'/contract carrier. Gets to drive to work.

captchris

I am home 14-18 days a month.... just had a 5 hour sit the other day in LGA because of a cancelled flight and got a day room at a hotel about 2 mins from LGA. The "DO I HAVE A FUTURE HERE" campaign is an attempt to get trip rigs restored 3.5:1 and the attendance reliability program eliminated. Trip rigs going 3.5:1 would take care of a lot of the other issues (commutability, schedules, etc.).

I enjoy AWAC.... has mgmt. done some shady stuff? Yes... but we are paid well for flying 50-seat aircraft compared to the rest of the industry. Day rooms are nice...beats sitting in the airport for 5 hours waiting for your next flight.... its not THAT bad!!!!

So people stop coming to class? Then what happens Vikz? Even more people get pi$$ed off because they are getting junior manned and upgrades come to a hault because they can't afford to pull FO's off the line to take a checkride from the other seat. The campaign will run its course...AWAC will continue to fill classes....and the sun will come up tomorrow.

Hopefully your new regional treats you better!

el jefe

I got the call on Thursday as well. I am guessing that if you didn't get the call by Friday then you're not getting call but the dreaded letter instead.

I plan on living in domicile. I asked the chief pilot who interviewed me about why pilots would not be happy to work at AWAC (in reference to the DIHAFH? website). He said that the pilots who commute to work are the ones who are generally unhappy, and the ones that live in domicile are (very) happy.

I have worked many jobs in my life, and the bottom line is that unless you are the CEO or president of the company, you're gonna get screwed by management so they can make money off of you. Cry me a river, build yourself a bridge, and get over it.

I know what to expect, I know what I can fall back on if things go sour, and I know how to roll with the punches. Nobody said this job was easy.

saab2000

Edited.....

I know Vikz09. Straight shooter. No BS.

Also, I am glad that you folks who plan to live in domicile can afford to do so. Me? I can't. I tried it.

I moved out of domicile because I expect more than a rat infested 1-room apartment in DCA for my salary. Or PHL (AKA - Killadelphia). Only ORF is mildly affordable.

Those who told you that only the commuters are unhappy are correct. But keep in mind that when the commuters were hired most of them were not commuters.

Think about that one...

el jefe

True, he referenced many of the pilots who got left high and dry in Denver.

As for living in domicile, if it ever become a problem being able to afford the DCA area, then I will just have to find a well-off senators daughter to marry

saab2000

If you can afford DCA now (and your post implies that you can) then you are good to go.

I pay MUCH less for my mortgage back in the midwest (Air WISCONSIN anyone...) than for a smallish apartment near DCA would cost.

I tried it. For the East Coast Silver Spooners and Trust Funders (and there are some here) it's OK.

BTW, not only DEN got left high and dry. About 99% of the pilots got left high and dry. It can happen again. This used to be a career company. Now it's a stepping stone. Like all the rest of them.

Glad you got hired. It's a great pilot group.

captchris

You can look at Richmond, Baltimore, other areas in VA and MD. Also---PHL is not a nice place... but Delaware has a lot of nice areas. I've personally been to two of my buddies places there...and they are really nice, and affordable. It is what you make of it!

If you want to live next to DCA and 1 mile from Pres. Bush... you'll pay a premium. If you look 1 hour away (BWI, RIC, Delaware and some other towns here and there) you can find some really affordable places, and still sit RSV at home.

Vikz09

Again people are missing my point. Air Wisconsin if you decide to live in domicle or very close by. (i.e need to be within 2 hours of airport for reserve.. and with traffic that means no farther away than 50 miles from the airport) then air wisconsin is ok.. The "DO I HAVE A FUTURE HERE" has much more to do with the companies execs funneling money away from AWAC then anything to do with a 3.5 trip rig.. Read the site and formulate you own opinion but it has little to do with a trip rig. Although 3.5 trip rig would help it still will not solve the companies complete lack of progress on improving QOL. 6 years ago the line construction was united's fault, then airtran's (when we did the jet connect) now it's US Air's fault that the line construction is the way it is. The sooner people realize that Air willy's primary focus is to maximize return on profit and NOT on improving the pilots way of life or QOL issues the better. Hell i sat in a road show were the director of operations said as much. The kicker that expediated my decision to leave was when the CEO said the reason Air Wisconsin is not expanding is because our 401k is 3 percent higher then our competion. My response to him is that Air wisconsins owners apparently aren't interested in reinvesting in there airline. This is one of the reasons the union has come out with Do i have a future here campain.

I will gladly call air wisconsin a respectable carrier again when they give me and the other 300 plus pilots who quit the tens of thousands of dollars they stole from me and my ALPA brothers. Until that day the only way to show our displeasure is to try and make a difference. Many of us gave a good chunk of our lives to making the Air Wisconsin namesake the best in the business... True, we were well compensated but Air Wisconsin was not a stepping stone, everyone came from another carrier with thousands of hours of experience. If you wanted the best quality pilots you had to pay the best. Unfortunatly things have changed dramatically and Air Wisconsin finds itself in a no growth enviorment.. unless of course the pilots are willing to subsidies the growth, then management will gladly grow if the pilots finance it. Just make sure you understand the facts before going to any airline... current pay rates should not be the deciding factor.. Pay rates can and have changed over a weekend... I lived it.

HercDriver130

Imagine that..... a companies focus being on maximizing return.... ( fwiw....i understand you point....it just sounds funny )

Other than that very nice post....