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Here's the biggest problem AWAC faces in my opinion. To take on and implement a new fleet takes time, a year minimum at best. They would have to start today to be able to go straight from AA to someone else once the AA contract is up. The other problem is AWAC is already struggling to staff the flying the already have. They can't do a steady transition into other flying or AA could sue them for falling well short of providing the lift they agreed to. So unless AWAC is planning on spending a ton of money to pay their whole airline to not fly for a few months as they transition and train, I don't see how they will be able to do it. They won't be able to just switch ALL flying to a new carrier in one day. And I love the AWAC guys but I don't see anyone wanting those 200s. So I really really hope you all get an announcement as early as possible.
If they do announce something worthwhile in the next few days, weeks, months, it will potentially open the doors for a flood of new hires. Same thing that happened at PSA and PDT.
And as for AA suing AWAC, unlikely. They already do half the departures they did just a few months ago but there's no word of any lawsuits floating around.
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#5133
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Here's the biggest problem AWAC faces in my opinion. To take on and implement a new fleet takes time, a year minimum at best. They would have to start today to be able to go straight from AA to someone else once the AA contract is up. The other problem is AWAC is already struggling to staff the flying the already have. They can't do a steady transition into other flying or AA could sue them for falling well short of providing the lift they agreed to. So unless AWAC is planning on spending a ton of money to pay their whole airline to not fly for a few months as they transition and train, I don't see how they will be able to do it. They won't be able to just switch ALL flying to a new carrier in one day. And I love the AWAC guys but I don't see anyone wanting those 200s. So I really really hope you all get an announcement as early as possible.
Seems like they could easily leave the leased aircraft on the AA contract and bid flying for the owened 200's. Then phase in a new type while planning to return the leased 50's at the end of 17. Earlier than expected relief doesn't have to result in a lawsuit just re-negotiations.
I think Scot Kirby going to United was the single biggest thing that happened for AWAC, he loves RJ's and has canceled their 73 latest order to max out scope. We all know how this story ends, with AWAC getting a new CPA with United based on some contract concessions and new bonus money. At least the pilots will have a choice in the matter.
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The key word people leave out is "try" when talking about suing another person/company. I can try to sue my neighbor because his kid plays nickleback songs too loud on some old drum set. Probably not going to pan out to anything except having a angry neighbor.
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Your point of view has the right idea but you contradict yourself at the time. Is it a year or more or just a few months? At this point there is a still a year before the flying with AA ends so there's still plenty of time.
If they do announce something worthwhile in the next few days, weeks, months, it will potentially open the doors for a flood of new hires. Same thing that happened at PSA and PDT.
And as for AA suing AWAC, unlikely. They already do half the departures they did just a few months ago but there's no word of any lawsuits floating around.
If they do announce something worthwhile in the next few days, weeks, months, it will potentially open the doors for a flood of new hires. Same thing that happened at PSA and PDT.
And as for AA suing AWAC, unlikely. They already do half the departures they did just a few months ago but there's no word of any lawsuits floating around.
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They already announced pay increases and incentives/bonuses. Lots of fine print involved, but the pay is comparable. That said, the hole they've dug is so deep that even with a new flying contract it's going to be difficult to staff the airline. I guess we'll see.
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Comparable to what, exactly?
#5138
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Deal, pay, flow, interviews, whatever combination of any, if any.
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Your point of view has the right idea but you contradict yourself at the time. Is it a year or more or just a few months? At this point there is a still a year before the flying with AA ends so there's still plenty of time.
If they do announce something worthwhile in the next few days, weeks, months, it will potentially open the doors for a flood of new hires. Same thing that happened at PSA and PDT.
And as for AA suing AWAC, unlikely. They already do half the departures they did just a few months ago but there's no word of any lawsuits floating around.
If they do announce something worthwhile in the next few days, weeks, months, it will potentially open the doors for a flood of new hires. Same thing that happened at PSA and PDT.
And as for AA suing AWAC, unlikely. They already do half the departures they did just a few months ago but there's no word of any lawsuits floating around.
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Okay, again, that's still a year away. A lot happens in a year. I really doubt they are going to wait to announce anything, if there is anything to announce, the day AA flying ends.
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