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12-16-2018 | 05:58 PM
#6702
Put me in your mouth
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When did the massive quiet/dark room in ORD become the FA ready reserve room? It was the only space where you could relax on long sits or pre/post commutes. How many FA ready reserves do we have/need?
12-18-2018 | 03:14 PM
#6703
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Bobbo Fresh stopped into the new dungeon when it was first finished, and mentioned how he wanted to build a WALL in the pilot ready reserve room, in order to develop the FA ready reserve room. Well apparently Mexico wasn’t paying for the wall and neither was Air Wis... so say goodbuy to the snooze room in O’hare.
02-15-2019 | 11:24 AM
#6705
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Based on the seniority list and monthly ALPA emails with resignations, I’d say a general average is 5 CA and 5 FOs voluntarily leaving. 5 FO resignations due to training. I am basing that off their employee number that gives you a good indication of those that have been here longer vs those that may still be in training. So lossing 15 total? Gaining 20-25 per month.
2 CAs per month to UAL via CPP, maybe 3.
In two years total pilots have gone up about 100-125. From 450-475 to 575ish. So that is about a net gain of 8 per month. It was 800-850 before the mass exodus pre UAL CPA announcement. 700 - 750 is their goal. So they still need 125-175 on top of attrition.
It’s growing, very slowly, and I know they wanted 200-250 net gain after two years, but looks to be at about half that. So yes guys are moving on, from both seats, and are being replaced with “some” growth. Classes still are pretty full based on the monthly new hire dinner photos they post.
Reserve is 0-2 months in MKE/CAE. Longer in ORD and longest in IAD. Maybe 4-6 and 8-12? Few months now all 4 bases have been open to new hires. MKE and CAE each month have line holders still in training so that is why for some reserve is 0.
For the past few vacancies - 10-12 new CAs each month. Word is that will continue. Upgrade is down to like 6 months for those with the required time before coming here. For those without the time, upgrade at 1000. So 14-15 months? Note that is upgrade at CAE/MKE. ORD and IAD reserve CA is still years to hold but slowly dropping over the last 6 months.
I’m just guessing here though. I could be off on some of this. There is no great sources for a lot of this info. Others may have better info.
02-15-2019 | 01:12 PM
#6706
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2016
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No hard numbers just guessing on all this.
Based on the seniority list and monthly ALPA emails with resignations, I’d say a general average is 5 CA and 5 FOs voluntarily leaving. 5 FO resignations due to training. I am basing that off their employee number that gives you a good indication of those that have been here longer vs those that may still be in training. So lossing 15 total? Gaining 20-25 per month.
2 CAs per month to UAL via CPP, maybe 3.
In two years total pilots have gone up about 100-125. From 450-475 to 575ish. So that is about a net gain of 8 per month. It was 800-850 before the mass exodus pre UAL CPA announcement. 700 - 750 is their goal. So they still need 125-175 on top of attrition.
It’s growing, very slowly, and I know they wanted 200-250 net gain after two years, but looks to be at about half that. So yes guys are moving on, from both seats, and are being replaced with “some” growth. Classes still are pretty full based on the monthly new hire dinner photos they post.
Reserve is 0-2 months in MKE/CAE. Longer in ORD and longest in IAD. Maybe 4-6 and 8-12? Few months now all 4 bases have been open to new hires. MKE and CAE each month have line holders still in training so that is why for some reserve is 0.
For the past few vacancies - 10-12 new CAs each month. Word is that will continue. Upgrade is down to like 6 months for those with the required time before coming here. For those without the time, upgrade at 1000. So 14-15 months? Note that is upgrade at CAE/MKE. ORD and IAD reserve CA is still years to hold but slowly dropping over the last 6 months.
I’m just guessing here though. I could be off on some of this. There is no great sources for a lot of this info. Others may have better info.
Based on the seniority list and monthly ALPA emails with resignations, I’d say a general average is 5 CA and 5 FOs voluntarily leaving. 5 FO resignations due to training. I am basing that off their employee number that gives you a good indication of those that have been here longer vs those that may still be in training. So lossing 15 total? Gaining 20-25 per month.
2 CAs per month to UAL via CPP, maybe 3.
In two years total pilots have gone up about 100-125. From 450-475 to 575ish. So that is about a net gain of 8 per month. It was 800-850 before the mass exodus pre UAL CPA announcement. 700 - 750 is their goal. So they still need 125-175 on top of attrition.
It’s growing, very slowly, and I know they wanted 200-250 net gain after two years, but looks to be at about half that. So yes guys are moving on, from both seats, and are being replaced with “some” growth. Classes still are pretty full based on the monthly new hire dinner photos they post.
Reserve is 0-2 months in MKE/CAE. Longer in ORD and longest in IAD. Maybe 4-6 and 8-12? Few months now all 4 bases have been open to new hires. MKE and CAE each month have line holders still in training so that is why for some reserve is 0.
For the past few vacancies - 10-12 new CAs each month. Word is that will continue. Upgrade is down to like 6 months for those with the required time before coming here. For those without the time, upgrade at 1000. So 14-15 months? Note that is upgrade at CAE/MKE. ORD and IAD reserve CA is still years to hold but slowly dropping over the last 6 months.
I’m just guessing here though. I could be off on some of this. There is no great sources for a lot of this info. Others may have better info.
02-15-2019 | 01:31 PM
#6707
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I appreciate the info. Depending open the time build I’m hoping to be in class by July/August time frame. Trying to get a sense of how things will be, if the movement will slowly continue, if I can be based in CAE and how long I’ll be sitting reserve. Lot of “ifs” to figure out. Thanks again!
02-15-2019 | 03:18 PM
#6708
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2011
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For CAs, Chicago is starting to swing senior. Dulles is now middle of the road. MKE and CAE are junior. CAE isn’t too bad especially if you live in base or can drive there. MKE has a close proximity to ORD.
If you want CAE out of training, you’ll get it. On the FO side, IAD is senior then ORD followed by MKE and CAE.
Life is always better when one doesn’t have to commute. I’ve been here 13 years and no longer have to commute and don’t miss the aggravation of full, delayed and cancelled flights to contend with. The way things are going, it’ll be a quick upgrade. The March staffing vacancy had a January, 2018 new hire get awarded MKE
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If you want CAE out of training, you’ll get it. On the FO side, IAD is senior then ORD followed by MKE and CAE.
Life is always better when one doesn’t have to commute. I’ve been here 13 years and no longer have to commute and don’t miss the aggravation of full, delayed and cancelled flights to contend with. The way things are going, it’ll be a quick upgrade. The March staffing vacancy had a January, 2018 new hire get awarded MKE
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02-16-2019 | 05:17 AM
#6709
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Joined: May 2016
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If you want CAE as a base AWA is a solid choice. It’s our second largest and most junior in both seats. Little to no reserve as an FO, and upgrade at 1000. For those that live there or can drive, QOL there is good. The one negitive is lots of early starts on day one and late finishes on day 4 being it a mx base. So for commuters that is terrible. For locals is more annoying but not as bad.
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