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Old 12-16-2015 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
So you are responsible for finding wifi? All airline ipads should come with data plans provided.
They should come with pacifiers as well 😂
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Old 12-16-2015 | 11:46 AM
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Since hotel Wi-Fi can be spotty, they better figure out fast crewroom Wi-Fi for us to download updates before a trip starts.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 03:49 AM
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Soooo, what percentage of the pilot group doesn't have 'real' WiFi at home or the crash pad? Isn't it just a little ridiculous to complain about the iPad because of hotel WiFi or rest implications?
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Old 12-17-2015 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by akulahunter
Soooo, what percentage of the pilot group doesn't have 'real' WiFi at home or the crash pad? Isn't it just a little ridiculous to complain about the iPad because of hotel WiFi or rest implications?
Yes sir. That is ridiculous.

The whole point of this EFB thing is that it's so easy a caveman could do it!
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Old 12-17-2015 | 06:30 AM
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If we check for updates before we start a trip, we should have everything we need for the duration of the trip - just like now as we're not obligated to get updates that are placed in our v-files after we're flying. (If the app works as intended, it should use the current data when the effective date rolls over. What happened a few days ago when we got the pretty red box should not have happened. The Jepp app handles chart changes just fine...)

Also, why can't the company set up wifi in the crew rooms on the intranet that will allow us to update during what seems to be more and more 3-hour airport appreciation periods. We don't have to rely on home or hotel wifi and those who feel compelled to update while "on the clock" can do so. With their current firewall rules, they don't have to worry about us streaming porn over the company network during those sits

I know. That makes too much sense. I'll slither back under my rock now.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Flubber
If we check for updates before we start a trip, we should have everything we need for the duration of the trip - just like now as we're not obligated to get updates that are placed in our v-files after we're flying. (If the app works as intended, it should use the current data when the effective date rolls over. What happened a few days ago when we got the pretty red box should not have happened. The Jepp app handles chart changes just fine...)

Also, why can't the company set up wifi in the crew rooms on the intranet that will allow us to update during what seems to be more and more 3-hour airport appreciation periods. We don't have to rely on home or hotel wifi and those who feel compelled to update while "on the clock" can do so. With their current firewall rules, they don't have to worry about us streaming porn over the company network during those sits

I know. That makes too much sense. I'll slither back under my rock now.

There seems to be some confusion over what it will take to get Wifi in the crew room. One management pilot said that the union has to request it first.

However the union notes that while a previous crew room grievance over crew room amenities was filed in 2012 and settled in 2014...the company has not addressed the current problem of not providing infrastructure for pilots to make company compelled updates to their EFBs.

The Union also noted that it should not fall to the association to solve this problem when this is an FAA approved program initiated by the company.

This, IMHO, has gone far beyond a comfort issue in the crew rooms. There are now enough mandatory company policies that involve internet access that they are obligated to provide it.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
There seems to be some confusion over what it will take to get Wifi in the crew room. One management pilot said that the union has to request it first.

However the union notes that while a previous crew room grievance over crew room amenities was filed in 2012 and settled in 2014...the company has not addressed the current problem of not providing infrastructure for pilots to make company compelled updates to their EFBs.

The Union also noted that it should not fall to the association to solve this problem when this is an FAA approved program initiated by the company.

This, IMHO, has gone far beyond a comfort issue in the crew rooms. There are now enough mandatory company policies that involve internet access that they are obligated to provide it.
You KNOW someone in ATW is gonna try and argue, "well why dont you just use the wifi provided in the terminal for passengers" No I'm not shelling out 9.99 for Boingo in ORF
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Old 12-17-2015 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
You KNOW someone in ATW is gonna try and argue, "well why dont you just use the wifi provided in the terminal for passengers" No I'm not shelling out 9.99 for Boingo in ORF

This so simple. If you can't get them updated prior to your show time and you made a reasonable effort to do so on company property, call CS and tell them you can't fly with outdated plates. They can't force you to break the FARs. With enough people calling about this and refusing to fly they will have wifi available in a few days.


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Old 12-17-2015 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
This so simple. If you can't get them updated prior to your show time and you made a reasonable effort to do so on company property, call CS and tell them you can't fly with outdated plates. They can't force you to break the FARs. With enough people calling about this and refusing to fly they will have wifi available in a few days.


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I literally cannot believe at how many of you are so bent out of shape over crew room wifi. I thought we would be more concerned with 401-404 being parked next month? Do the update at home before or after your trip and if you don't have Internet access inform your CP. Can we move on now?
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Old 12-17-2015 | 11:20 AM
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Ok we all know there isn't much juicy info in our ssi packet. Nothing you can't find on the internet anyway. Regardless, were supposed to completely destroy or at the very least cross cut shred into pieces no more than 3/8". They've always been very serious about this. Now all of the sudden they're cool with us downloading ssi over an unsecured double tree connection?
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