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Old 02-14-2016, 08:47 AM
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I don't know if there will be an official announcement from the company but this has been widely known for a year. It would have happened last year at this time but American begged AWAC not to do it since we had to cover flying for everyone else.

Under the contract extension AWAC is only obligated to have 67 aircraft available so the extra 4 are basically a bonus...that apparently American could not live without.

I have heard transfers from PSA, boneyard reclamations and American ponying up the $$ for the expensive aging aircraft these first four need to keep flying.
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:49 AM
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Well... Maybe I'll go ahead and share what a Mx personnel told me last night in CLT. You guys are parking 200s, PSA will be transferring some of our 200s to you, and we will be getting the remaining CRJ900 options. Just a rumor at this time. But who knows...
I've been hearing that the FAA is getting a little hinky about PSA pilots operating three different airframes, sometimes all in the same day. So that, combined with the fact that hiring at PSA has slowed to a trickle, seems to bolster the idea that transferring the 200s to Air Willy (and taking more 900s) makes sense. I think we'll also again see the transfer of envoy 700s slow to a point predicated on PSA's ability to staff them.

But that all seems to make sense,........ so obviously it won't happen.
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick111 View Post
I've been hearing that the FAA is getting a little hinky about PSA pilots operating three different airframes, sometimes all in the same day. So that, combined with the fact that hiring at PSA has slowed to a trickle, seems to bolster the idea that transferring the 200s to Air Willy (and taking more 900s) makes sense. I think we'll also again see the transfer of envoy 700s slow to a point predicated on PSA's ability to staff them.

But that all seems to make sense,........ so obviously it won't happen.
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:52 AM
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Any idea where these 200's would go? Increase PHL base?
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:06 AM
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This is true, a ramper told me the same the other day.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick111 View Post
I've been hearing that the FAA is getting a little hinky about PSA pilots operating three different airframes, sometimes all in the same day. So that, combined with the fact that hiring at PSA has slowed to a trickle, seems to bolster the idea that transferring the 200s to Air Willy (and taking more 900s) makes sense. I think we'll also again see the transfer of envoy 700s slow to a point predicated on PSA's ability to staff them.

But that all seems to make sense,........ so obviously it won't happen.
Well I think we will still do some 200 flying. All of our March flying beginning out of ORD is supposed to be 200 flying. But, the FAA has already tried to impose some sort of 200 7/900 fence at PSA and it didn't happen. As for the 700s, those will likely come at a slower rate if we can't staff them right away. However, AAG has made it widely known that they don't want Envoy operating different manufacturer types. Each regional operates one type.

And just to stir the pot, I've heard some wild rumors about PSA offering you Whiskey pilots some sort of first year pay commiserate with the pay scale you are at now if you come over to PSA. I have no clue how our union would deal with that one, but I have heard it.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:30 AM
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And just to stir the pot, I've heard some wild rumors about PSA offering you Whiskey pilots some sort of first year pay commiserate with the pay scale you are at now if you come over to PSA. I have no clue how our union would deal with that one, but I have heard it.
The union would simply file a feckless grievance and then roll over for a belly rub, like they did when the company started offering $5000 hiring bonuses.

After filing the hiring bonus grievance, the union sent our an email to the members talking about how the company HAD to do it and all but EXCUSED the company's flouting of our contract. It was disgusting and I don't see them striking a hard line posture on what you mentions either. Anything to get more dues in the door!
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:32 AM
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The union must start thinking that this is a market. I will go where they pay me more always or have a good balance between benefit vs malefit.
The company must be able to do what is necessary to mantain the flights on time.
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:46 AM
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No official announcement? Serious? All the nonsense we get pifs for and they don't say a word about this?
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Old 02-15-2016, 03:16 AM
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I would be very surprised if we don't get, at least a few, of PSA -200s or at least some others from somewhere else.

It sounds like the only shot they have of staffing and taking delivery of the last of the -900/700s would be to shed some of em.

Time will tell.
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