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Pogey Bait 11-29-2017 04:41 AM

Instant ETOPS program.

jetliner1526 11-29-2017 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by pogey bait (Post 2473976)
instant etops program.

^^t h i s^^

RadarColor 11-29-2017 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2473976)
Instant ETOPS program.

Hardly worth the cost of the VX debt.

Pogey Bait 11-29-2017 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by RadarColor (Post 2474252)
Hardly worth the cost of the VX debt.

Third time to bat and it might be. And that debt you speak of is Alaska’s debt not VX.

Bwipilot 11-29-2017 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc (Post 2473829)
Be careful what you wish for..the AT guys basically got stapled after their "aquisition." I don't think it would be different for AS. Jmho..CG

You've been flagged for gross BS. The SLI wasn't even close to a staple. The AT guys lost about 3-4 years from DOH but also got a huge pay raise. Many will deny the pay increase--but if you compare the payscalses for 2009 against 2012, the truth will be revealed.

CGfalconHerc 11-29-2017 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bwipilot (Post 2474373)
You've been flagged for gross BS. The SLI wasn't even close to a staple. The AT guys lost about 3-4 years from DOH but also got a huge pay raise. Many will deny the pay increase--but if you compare the payscalses for 2009 against 2012, the truth will be revealed.

Whatever helps you sleep at night..que WHACKMASTER in 3..2..1..

Bottom line..SWAPA and SWA mgmt held a gun to AT's head and made them an offer they couldn't refuse. Agree to an imposed SWAPA SLI..or be liquidated as part of a shell company.

Don't sugarcoat it now..just own it..it is what it is.

This business is ruthless. You guys were the the acquiring carrier..and you wanted access to ATL. To the victor go the spoils of war..so to speak.

My only point was that AS could expect the same treatment in the event of a SWA buyout.

And please keep your flags to yourself..thanks for the 717's..and have a nice day.:D

ASpilot0936 11-29-2017 05:00 PM

Delta's my vote.

rickair7777 11-29-2017 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2474442)
Delta's my vote.

Any ALPA would be for the best.

svergin 11-29-2017 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2473976)
Instant ETOPS program.

For only $8B and that debt from the VX merger. Plus adding a new fleet type to the airline. Would make no sense. Plus they are already the #1 domestic carrier in the US. I can't see DOJ not having problems with that.

dynap09 11-29-2017 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2472602)
Why would anyone want to get bought out by SWA and get Air-tranned.... no thanks

I bet there are a ton of regional pilots hoping to get "airtranned" as well - those regional pay rates are 100% BS.

I don't think it'd be as dramatic with Alaska. First, Alaska pays better. Does someone remember what a 12 year AT FO made? It wasn't good at all.


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