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full of luv 12-05-2017 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2477218)
You think this DOJ gives a **** about monopolies? They allowed net neutrality to die, and we will all pay an assload for that mess.

Tell that to ATT/Time Warner who is ^*(%& about justice dept pooing in their merger deal.

Net Neutrality is not a "merger" it's a utilitarian concept set up to "help" the big companies actually against the little guy.

If large consumers of the internet bandwidth, ie NETFLIX, AMAZON, etc don't pay more (because of net neutrality), then the costs for everyone, ie the little guy startup, go up which stifles innovation.

Salukidawg 12-05-2017 08:15 AM

While I’m not interested in going through another merger anytime soon, a WN/AS merger on paper makes a whole lot of sense. The combined Airline would have scale and dominance along the West Coast, Hawaii and Alaska to be a formidable competitor to the Big 3 and set the combined Airline up for larger equipment to build a long haul Transpacific operation out of SEA. Given the combined fleet would most likely be all Boeing again by the time the two Airlines are combined, the integration and cost synergies should be realized in less than half the time it took WN to integrate FL. That alone makes the merger even more compelling from WN’s perspective. Time will tell, but it wouldn’t shock me if this happens in the next 12-24 months.

Bwipilot 12-05-2017 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Salukidawg (Post 2477850)
a WN/AS merger on paper makes a whole lot of sense.

Only on toilet paper.

The **** that comes with a merger isn't worth it. The AS and Virgin pilots still have to merge. Not going to be a happy group when it's done--even if the SLI is done well. Both sides have a very different idea of "fair". Even the CEO feels the pain of a merger after a while.

Salukidawg 12-05-2017 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Bwipilot (Post 2477992)
Only on toilet paper.

The **** that comes with a merger isn't worth it. The AS and Virgin pilots still have to merge. Not going to be a happy group when it's done--even if the SLI is done well. Both sides have a very different idea of "fair". Even the CEO feels the pain of a merger after a while.

See, that’s where you’re wrong. The C suite has absolutely no regard for how you or I feel about the **** that comes with a merger. If you were here for the FL acquisition, you know good and well that GK didn’t give a rip what either pilot group thought of the deal then, and they won’t care this time either. I also didn’t say I’m for another merger, just that I can see from a management perspective why they would want another one that’s all.

Jetlife 12-05-2017 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bwipilot (Post 2477992)
Even the CEO feels the pain of a merger after a while.

Am I supposed to feel sorry for the person IMPOSING the pain? Come on...

Foodstamps 12-07-2017 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 2471702)
No way. SWA is way too cheap to pull the trigger on a deal like that. Maybe once another airline is on the ropes, swa will open up the checkbook again, but an industry and investor darling like Alaska is out of SWAs league and would come at a huge price premium that they wouldn’t be willing to pay. Besides, be careful what you wish for...Southwest is a great company, but it has its warts too, some of them genital warts.

That's from ****ing all the competition...:cool:

Foodstamps 12-07-2017 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2472602)
Why would anyone want to get bought out by SWA and get Air-tranned.... no thanks

Yeah I can't imagine what I'd do with all that extra money, time off, being able to credit 200+hours a month every month and fun overnights. That sounds like the worst...:rolleyes:

Have you even talked to their guys? Even at our new rates their midrange FO's make more than our captains. That's without breaking a sweat. I have friends there and I've seen their W2's. It's night and day.

And line bidding WITH CONFLICTS?! As in...the **only reason** to even have line bidding?? Imagine that...

Outdoors 12-07-2017 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Foodstamps (Post 2479046)
Yeah I can't imagine what I'd do with all that extra money, time off, being able to credit 200+hours a month every month and fun overnights. That sounds like the worst...:rolleyes:

Have you even talked to their guys? Even at our new rates their midrange FO's make more than our captains. That's without breaking a sweat. I have friends there and I've seen their W2's. It's night and day.

And line bidding WITH CONFLICTS?! As in...the **only reason** to even have line bidding?? Imagine that...

Exactly, I’ve found the same to be true. Plus they have the ability to trade trips around without having to cold call people, crazy!

ImperialxRat 12-12-2017 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Outdoors (Post 2479115)
Exactly, I’ve found the same to be true. Plus they have the ability to trade trips around without having to cold call people, crazy!

What is trading trips?... I am unfamiliar with this concept.

Av8rRr 01-27-2018 08:42 AM

Rumors?
 
Any new rumors floating around?? I’ve heard from multiple pilots that Southwest has been looking into Alaska... And supposedly American is looking at the Virgin busses. Just seems like an interesting time right now. Especially with the hault on Airbus classes in March?


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