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Old 12-23-2017, 12:17 PM
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After reading the latest JNC ledger, I can't help but feel played once again. In this e-mail the union states, "we are encouraged that management is beginning to see the necessity of having the pilots on board if this merger is going to fly". Seriously? The ship has sailed long ago buddy! Once again, we fold and stand down with the orange lanyards and pound our chest with an email stating that our MEC finally got around to filing pilot harassment grievances. A day late and a dollar short, don't you think? And all this after numerous pilots were chastized in the name of "orange" in public by management pilots, the CEO himself, VP of Flight ops, and even a wife of a one of our management pilots. That management pilot should get his kitchen monkey under control!
During my time with this company, they have never once done the right thing and I don't expect them to change now. In my humble opinion, it's a ploy on company's behalf to maintain a smooth operation during the holidays. Let history speak for itself. Unfortunately for both parties, their actions have lost a good majority of this pilot group in my opinion. The ship has indeed sailed away a long ago and has past the CP. Delta, please acquire this sinking ship.

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Old 12-23-2017, 01:45 PM
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Ploy or plot? Why not both?

This pilot group loses all the time. We are losers. We bring it upon ourselves.

Anyway, like you said, the ship sailed a long time ago. I know this management team to be a bunch of back-stabbing liars. I bet they would love to run a real sweatshop. They are snakes and cannot be trusted one bit.

At least most of us know what type of people we are dealing with. They have created a toxic environment and have undermined us... and we have allowed them to do so.

I hope they are ready to pay the price for their practices. Aside from the good company boys and girls, the rest of us are fed up and tired. We don't give a damn about the company or the brand. Hell, the brand has no identity right now... they may as well put a picture of a chicken with its head cut off on the tails of our airplanes.

No leadership and no long-term vision or solutions. They are constantly trying to put out fires that they have created. They seem to think short-term: Let's get through the summer, let's get through Thanksgiving, let's get through Xmas & New Years, etc.

We have big operational problems and they waste their time worrying about lanyards. We have a pretty meh product. We have old ratty terminals and old ratty jetways.

I think we have reached our peak as a company and are on a downward slide. It doesn't have to be this way. But, the execs and BOD are drunk on record profit margins and wanting to look good to shareholders and Wall Street. They keep wanting to cut cost and diminish the product, all the while trampling further on employee morale.

I suppose they'll just punch their tickets home if this thing actually tanks. They really don't have much to lose. They keep making their bonuses. If the company fails, they still get to retire and cash in further. If the execs don't retire after they run this place into the ground, then they will easily slide into another exec position at another company.

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Old 12-23-2017, 01:54 PM
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I don't want to wear blue because management put on a dog and pony show with schedulers and planners. I want to wear blue because when I see actual evidence things are getting better. Until then, it should be orange and nothing else.
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Hell, the brand has no identity right now... they may as well put a picture of a chicken with its head cut off on the tails of our airplanes.



That’s pretty funny, and totally accurate too!

I love reading the comments in the alaskasworld article about the “battle for Seattle”. Almost every single comment mentions the lack of direction.
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Old 12-23-2017, 03:04 PM
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Yes, most of the comments are from FAs & CSAs and they are scathing. Unfortunately, no one in the executive level is listening. Similar comments have been posted within the past several month in response to other articles, but Anglers just bury their heads in the sand.

As long as the performance metrics are within tolerances and they are saving a few bucks, that's all that matters.

Plain old bean-counting... zero leadership.
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Hell, the brand has no identity right now...


It literally doesn't even say the name of the airline on it. Whose idea was this??
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It literally doesn't even say the name of the airline on it. Whose idea was this??
Must be Fred and Joe’s garage, honest used car sales lot, and airline.
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That livery is heinous. When I saw the article on PRAVDA (aka alaskasworld) and the artist's rendition, I thought "You've got to be ********** kidding me!"
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You realize that most of the 2nd floor was Jet A for a long time.
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You realize that most of the 2nd floor was Jet A for a long time.
Ploy and plot. I have zero respect and even less trust for puzzle palace. Predecessors to the Antichrist.
You mean KF, TK, and a few others. Most Jet A guys are standup guys but some of the worst excuse for a human being come from Jet A. Jelly spine backstabbing sellouts come to mind. As for the ex-Jet A FAs, they are some of the finest human beings on the planet!
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