I haven't sent you anything nor do I have a dog in this fight, but I want to know how you know any of this. Negotiations for SLI are under NDA and anything leaked is cause for removal from the committee. So either someone is leaking something to you and can face repercussions, you were at the table and are violating the NDA and can face repercussions or you're making stuff up.

Wow... SLI police. I get it only spread lies on this website and you are ok. Anything with any truth to it and you get locked up. There is no financial information given out, no national security information. I guess this anonymous website is worthless then, we can only lye or disseminate known or trivial information. I can only imagine what my penance will be. Hopefully, some more time off. I will stop posting now because the bullies aren’t getting their way and are try to shutdown the dissemination of information.

It is interesting how much info Mea25000 has. Iirc he has some info on the arbitration before it came out too. He’s probably accurate

Why should only a few be intrusted with information. How or who does this knowledge hurt. We are all big boys and girls. We can reason through information just as well as anyone else. Why all the secrecy. Who are we protecting. Oh I know the union masons are protecting us from our selves. Are we surfs living under Kings or in a aristocracy? I think most people want to know what is really going on. Attorneys get paid, arbiters get paid, we all get screwed and gladly pay their exorbitant fees. So you guys get me fired... I am the bad guy.

I agree, no big need for secrecy on this. Negotiations with the company, different deal. Worst case here is reps get an earful.

Of course I didn't sign any NDA.

I asked you a simple question. “Where did you get your information from?” Then you went on a diatribe on different types of feudalism. Were you at the table or heard about what was spoken at the table with the mediator, or were you just throwing out a WAG?

Personally, this SLI formula would be great in putting a lot of the PBS kids in the lower half of the bidding stack in any base. Gone would be the terrible idea that PBS works under the current CBA work rules as all Airbus pilots would feel the effects of the Emperors optimizer at mediocre seniority. Best way to achieve a common goal is to show the few with 9 years seniority over at Brand X what life is like at mid to low seniority at Alaska so in 2020 real unity can swat at the meager first scraps thrown to a vote during Section 6 negotiations

Re-read your initial post. You are needlessly adversarial and you can't back up your claims. I.e. you're a troll.

If anything, all you are saying is that AS and VX negotiators are standing their ground, instead of giving in. I'd expect nothing less. I hope both sides are having beers together while agreeing that an arbitrator is the only way to go on the SLI. As in, we're all in this together--which is the opposite of your juvenile/divisive tone.

Are you implying that 1/4 of the VX pilots live in, or will commute to, Portland or Seattle?
Where do you get these “migration” percentages?

This whole thread is ridiculous. Run the formula presented and you get the VX guys hired in 2008 who upgraded in 2010-11 placed below AS guys hired in 2012 who have yet to upgrade. That defies Category / Class and is a definite windfall for many. It flies in the face of ALPA merger policy which, though many don’t want to accept, will govern this process.