Make sure you tell that to management; they'll be glad for us to willingly give up whatever leverage we have going into the next negotiations.

If the company starts mixing the VX/AS route structure the pairings will probably end up being better on average. AS has way too many East Coast destinations with only one or two flights a day. If they can mix and match some of the routes the pairings should improve.

Either way PBS isn't going to fix pairing construction and given AS ALPA's negotiating track record I'm doubtful that whatever PBS language they do negotiation won't be a Sheet Sandwich..

At least with PBS you can mitigate the damage by stacking non-commutable trips next to each other and minimize the number of commutes each month. That alone could be worth several days a month of being at home that don't necessarily show up on the actual schedules. I agree that what's within the lines might be inefficient as hell, but at least with PBS you have more flexibility to choose what kind of ****** sandwich you want to have.

I don't trust AAG management and our crew planning with PBS. They will use it to their advantage to the fullest extent. It will be yet another weapon for them to make us even more productive. They want it badly for a reason... and it's not just for cost cutting.

No to PBS unless management is willing to give the pilot group control over writing pairings, running the software, etc. We also need transparency.

It's way past time for this pilot group to ask management what they're willing to give up for PBS implementation. We should run PBS the way Delta does... and we should demand Delta work rules.

I'm fed up with B&B's BS and secret sauce.

/end rant

True, just ask our FA's about Alaska's implementation of PBS.

No matter what proof you show them they will never go for PBS. Senior DAL 737 Capt's have 18 days off/70hrs (no training or vacation) and junior Capts have 18 or 17 days off. Not only are there more days off, you can chose your type of trips and on which days.

Baja.

Message me anytime you want monthly print outs of schedules dude... I'm sure your ALPA will fight for you to get the correct PBS. Or maybe ALPA is too busy skimming $$ off of having meetings at the Italian place, or doing back room deals to make LAX PDX ANC's LEC Votes worthless. Good Luck bro... You all have a hard road ahead, you have a company that wants to screw you and a Union that only supports itself.

Baja.

I hope we keep line bidding. I hope we fight like hell to keep it in contract 2020. If the company really wants it, it’s gonna cost them. That’s my stance anyway. I hope all VX’ers jump on board with me.

I know a VX CA who lives in New Zealand. Would he be able to bid 6 on, 1 off and 6 on via line bidding? Could such a person rely on trip trading to accomplish that schedule?

I want DCA, SAN, ORD and HNL next month with a stretch of approx 8 days off. Preferably 3 or 4 four-day trips that are commutable on one or both ends. At approx 50% FO seniority at VX, I think I'll be real close to getting that. Would that be feasible with AS line bidding?

For the millionth time, please stop selling PBS on a public forum.

You’re cutting our legs out from beneath us when it comes to negotiations.

I'm not selling anything. I've never done line bidding, but I'm certain that good line bidding is better than BT/BM PBS.

I'm genuinely asking about some of the mechanics on how well/flexible the trip trading is.