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The Great Defenders of Alaska are all the “ Legacy Brats” that infest this place....They along with their brothers, mothers, fathers, uncles and the rest of their inbred kin are why we have an empty shell called a contract....Yes voters all. The loudest voices on here stood next to you at the picketing events and then slunk off and flew their vsa premium ***** trips later in the day....you now work for a west coast super-regional....not a major and certainly not a legacy....Ignore the punks and punkettes whether they be 26 or 56....It is a job not a career...

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Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2515924)

According to the LA Times, its a done deal. Relative seniority.

http://www.latimes.com/business/alpa-negotiates-relative-seniority-merger-between-alaska-and-virgin-america-pilots

Finally, one worthwhile post in this terrible thread. We are such a bunch of babies...

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Originally Posted by ogilthorpe (Post 2516035)

Finally, one worthwhile post in this terrible thread. We are such a bunch of babies...

Its all dust in the wind.

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Originally Posted by ogilthorpe (Post 2516035)

Finally, one worthwhile post in this terrible thread. We are such a bunch of babies...

WEll played sir!!!!

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Originally Posted by RJs2majors (Post 2515755)

Anyone claiming to know how the SLI will play out has no real credibility. They may or may not be in the know but APC sure isn't the place to post insider information.
In regards to VX pilots' windfall, it's 100% true. You have to give Mea some credit because he's right on. VX pilots would have never negotiated a 40% pay raise on their own to begin with. Many VXers claim that this is their 4th+ airline but why is that? Let's face it, many who ended up at VX are undesirables and the rest were using VX as a stepping stone. A normal person with an average or better IQ doesn't choose VX over the big boys and/or Alaska. VXers can cry all they want but you guys scored BIG. To reiterate, windfall=40%+ pay raise, a 401K worth a damn, and a job. You all could have just gone the way of Aloha. Accept reality and move on.

This has to be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever read and embarrassing that it comes from a fellow Alaska guy. I have many friends at VX whom I've flown with at various other carriers that are top-notch standup guys and gals. There isn't anything we can do about the SLI and we'll probably all end up within a few percentage points relative on the list so get over it. This drama is pointless, lets get some unity going for 2020. Were going to need it.

DOH solves the problem. Plus its the gold standard.

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Originally Posted by flywest (Post 2517085)

DOH solves the problem. Plus its the gold standard.

DoH hasn't even been a part of the ALPA Merger/Frag policy since the early '90's when UAL got the BoD to replace it with "career expectations." That was to prevent USAir pilots in a prospective merger (which, btw, failed) out of the UAL widebody seats.

Since neither AS nor VX fly widebodies, "career expectations" as defined don't come into play.

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Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2517246)

Sure, but DOH would make it simple. Everyone on the the Alaska list started with a DOH #. Heck I looked at the Virgin list and it's a mess. They upgraded a bunch of people out of seniority. So I guess seniority don't mean much over there. DOH would fix that for the VX folks who got passed over. Merit upgrades??

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Originally Posted by flywest (Post 2517381)

I won’t go into the details because it is way to long but there were never any merit upgrades at VX, it had to do with something those pilots agreed to per their job offer. It was arbitrated and nothing changed.

SLI reality check fo VX