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ALPA merger policy and arbitration. As the United guys learned....an arbitrator does not have to follow the merger policy. The unions follow it in negotiations. The bottom line is when you go to arbitration that means you failed and now an arbitrator has to figure it out. They can use all, some or none of the merger policy. If they choose to use the merger policy, they can interpret and weigh the policy however they want. In their minds....you failed and this is what you get and there’s nothing you can do about it. They can do whatever the heck they want to be honest. Just ask United about the arbitrator’s 787 decision. So if you’re hanging your hat on an arbitrator following the policy...get ready to be surprised...or disappointed.
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Originally Posted by Moose
(Post 2511827)
ALPA merger policy and arbitration. As the United guys learned....an arbitrator does not have to follow the merger policy. The unions follow it in negotiations. The bottom line is when you go to arbitration that means you failed and now an arbitrator has to figure it out. They can use all, some or none of the merger policy. If they choose to use the merger policy, they can interpret and weigh the policy however they want. In their minds....you failed and this is what you get and there’s nothing you can do about it. They can do whatever the heck they want to be honest. Just ask United about the arbitrator’s 787 decision. So if you’re hanging your hat on an arbitrator following the policy...get ready to be surprised...or disappointed.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2511899)
Hard to not go to arbitration... if the merging MECs agree to anything, no matter how reasonable, some folks on both sides would likely blame them for "selling out". Tough position.
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Originally Posted by Snuffaluffagus
(Post 2511167)
Yawn, more stuff to try and divide us. No wonder we will never have scope if we keep this dick measuring contest up.
All postulation. One thing is for certain after going thru three negotiations, no amount of speculation or *****ing changes one thing. Usually just affects ones own happiness and production. |
Originally Posted by Just a Lurker
(Post 2511795)
This whole thread is ridiculous. Run the formula presented and you get the VX guys hired in 2008 who upgraded in 2010-11 placed below AS guys hired in 2012 who have yet to upgrade. That defies Category / Class and is a definite windfall for many. It flies in the face of ALPA merger policy which, though many don’t want to accept, will govern this process.
A FA walking through the C Concourse gave me the SLI numbers. >23 percent of VX pilots either have PNW addresses on file or proximity is closer to address on file. How does this destroy unity. Soon we will all look at numbers and they will be final. So pretending this is not going to happen builds unity? |
This entire thread is moot and irrelevant, SLI, just like the JCBA is going to arbitration and it will be just another thing that both pilot groups complain about from years to come.
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
(Post 2512337)
This entire thread is moot and irrelevant, SLI, just like the JCBA is going to arbitration and it will be just another thing that both pilot groups complain about from years to come.
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Originally Posted by pete2800
(Post 2512431)
To the pit of misery we go!
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Proudly all Boeing...
first one to learn: aborted engine start (before start lever raised to idle) Start switch off |
look at the last 4 Seniority list integrations, SWA & Airtran being a rare exception, and you will see how this is going to go... ever heard of ‘relative seniority’...😉
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