How Do I Get To Alaska?
04-04-2018, 10:28 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
This career is such a massive investment of one's life.
The OP wrote "I suspect I may be spending anywhere from 10 to 25 years before getting called by a major."
Why do we do this to ourselves? The pay isn't even all that great anymore. The lifestyle is hard. Imagine if it took several decades to become a dentist. It's no wonder the young are choosing away from this career.
It is my dream to work for AS too and blew two of the best decades of my life in the effort. Every day I imagine how things would have worked out if I had spent as much effort and devotion in an arena that actually had a chance of producing a meaningful return.
Skyhigh
The OP wrote "I suspect I may be spending anywhere from 10 to 25 years before getting called by a major."
Why do we do this to ourselves? The pay isn't even all that great anymore. The lifestyle is hard. Imagine if it took several decades to become a dentist. It's no wonder the young are choosing away from this career.
It is my dream to work for AS too and blew two of the best decades of my life in the effort. Every day I imagine how things would have worked out if I had spent as much effort and devotion in an arena that actually had a chance of producing a meaningful return.
Skyhigh
04-04-2018, 05:07 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
To the OP, you’ll need 1500 hours for the ATP to fly for a regional, stay in, get the time.
GF
To the OP, you’ll need 1500 hours for the ATP to fly for a regional, stay in, get the time.
GF
Be advised, if there is an adverse separation, most regionals won't care as long as you have an honorable (or maybe even a general), but the best majors will care a lot, and will recognize an unusual mil timeline or DD214 separation code. The AA wholly-owned regionals with flow might be the way to go, if you get in under the wire there.
04-16-2018, 10:26 AM
#18
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I've been gone a bit - sorry!
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
04-16-2018, 10:50 AM
#19
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Well don't say that in your interview.....
"I split with active duty due to irreconcilable differences."
Regionals might not care now due to desperation, but any major hiring board is going to look at that with serious curiosity. Go get as many checkrides as possible between your military career and your major airline interview.
"I split with active duty due to irreconcilable differences."
Regionals might not care now due to desperation, but any major hiring board is going to look at that with serious curiosity. Go get as many checkrides as possible between your military career and your major airline interview.
Originally Posted by SnowmanKiller
I've been gone a bit - sorry!
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
04-16-2018, 11:18 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by SnowmanKiller
I've been gone a bit - sorry!
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
If you get to keep your mil wings, then some quality time at the regionals should fix you up just fine, and you should still catch the peak of the hiring wave. If they pulled your wings it will be a little tougher, just due to perceptions.
Plan on upgrading at a regional, and try to get a check airman slot. Best way to do that is to get into the training dept ASAP as an FO (you'll want to have a clean training record at that airline too). Once in the training dept, you're known to management and will have an obvious advantage when applying for check airman and sim jobs. Regionals now tend to use FO's for ground instructors, so if you wait until you upgrade you won't have an obvious way to break into the training dept.
Other ways to stand out are to volunteer for test programs (software, etc), volunteer for union jobs or things like HIMS, run for union leadership jobs. Anything above and beyond just flying the line. You can also of course volunteer outside of the company... leadership is better of course (ie BoD for the nonprofit vice ladling soup once a week).
Expect to be at a regional 3-4 years, not 10+.
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