How Do I Get To Alaska?
04-16-2018, 11:21 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by SnowmanKiller
I've been gone a bit - sorry!
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
I couldn't air refuel which is why I'm getting out. I could fly the plane just fine for everything else. Expecting an honorable discharge. Not an adverse DD214 code. I figure my mil timeline will put me at a disadvantage for majors.
To put the thread back towards my question - IF I am able to get with a regional, I understand my goal is to upgrade to captain and get that TPIC. Besides getting TPIC, what else can I do? Are there leadership opportunities I can pursue that don't take me out of the cockpit?
If so, you need to somehow get on with a regional and try to hide that in the chaff, as previously advised..
Doesn’t the AF need staff officers?
04-16-2018, 11:32 AM
#22
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All of the above being said, I wouldn’t wait around to get those boxes checked before you applied to Alaska. Management won’t say it but they know the pecking order of airlines and they know they are not the top. At 2nd tier airlines, if you look TOO perfect it might delay you getting on. If you look too perfect they might be worried you will jump to Delta or FedEx the first chance you got. With your blemish, they know they got you for at least a little while.
Good luck
Good luck
04-16-2018, 03:18 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by AltoCumulus
All of the above being said, I wouldn’t wait around to get those boxes checked before you applied to Alaska. Management won’t say it but they know the pecking order of airlines and they know they are not the top. At 2nd tier airlines, if you look TOO perfect it might delay you getting on. If you look too perfect they might be worried you will jump to Delta or FedEx the first chance you got. With your blemish, they know they got you for at least a little while.
Good luck
Good luck
04-16-2018, 03:28 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by AltoCumulus
All of the above being said, I wouldn’t wait around to get those boxes checked before you applied to Alaska. Management won’t say it but they know the pecking order of airlines and they know they are not the top. At 2nd tier airlines, if you look TOO perfect it might delay you getting on. If you look too perfect they might be worried you will jump to Delta or FedEx the first chance you got. With your blemish, they know they got you for at least a little while.
Good luck
Good luck
04-16-2018, 05:24 PM
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I've been reading that blemishes on your record could, in a way, help you get on at Alaska because then they think you can't leave to get on at one of the top tier airlines. So, how would Alaska look at multiple checkride failures? Is that a blemish that would help you get on or negate you from getting hired?
04-16-2018, 07:56 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by HangOn
Sounds like you went to a FEB?
If so, you need to somehow get on with a regional and try to hide that in the chaff, as previously advised..
Doesn’t the AF need staff officers?
If so, you need to somehow get on with a regional and try to hide that in the chaff, as previously advised..
Doesn’t the AF need staff officers?
Find a consulting service/interview prep that will tell how to best couch your issue. If flying formation at night wasn't your thing, and you've got positive endorsements in all other things from your Commanding Officer, the regionals wont hold it against you. Several years of no other issues, and you'll be in great shape for AK, and good shape for an actual major?
04-17-2018, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by newpilotusa
So, how would Alaska look at multiple checkride failures? Is that a blemish that would help you get on or negate you from getting hired?
04-17-2018, 06:55 AM
#28
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In all cases above, why not just apply and see if you get the call? Seems fruitless to worry about whether or not you’re hireable if you don’t apply. Also, if you do get the call, don’t ever try and hide your past mistakes. Fall on your sword and tell the panel what you learned from the situation. If caught lying, your done and they already know all the answers to those questions before you walk in the door. Good luck to all!
04-17-2018, 07:33 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by newpilotusa
I've been reading that blemishes on your record could, in a way, help you get on at Alaska because then they think you can't leave to get on at one of the top tier airlines. So, how would Alaska look at multiple checkride failures? Is that a blemish that would help you get on or negate you from getting hired?
A lot of this has to do with what checkrides, how long ago, and what's happened since. A couple GA busts followed by ten years trouble-free years and multiple 121/135 type ratings should not be a big deal for most majors.
Several recent busts without much good history between them and you will probably need some time and trouble-free experience to overcome.
A sustained pattern of busts at all levels throughout your career does not bode well at all for most or all majors.
04-27-2018, 07:38 AM
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Hi Herc !
Originally Posted by HercDriver130
Good god man this is the best hiring environment probably ever for airlines in this country. Pay isnt great.... define great.... the reality is sky... you just didnt have it... and the life took shots at you... and didnt hand it to you... boo freaking hoo.... There are 30 year old CAs at my company this year who will make well north of 200k this year... with no OT...... pfft.. the naysayer still boo hoo(ing) good lord...
At present, I am taking my older kids to tour trade schools. The welding school reported that they had a graduate last year who made $160,000 in his first six months (20 years old). There are a lot of careers that one can choose these days that can match legacy airline wages without the huge cost in cash to become trained and educated nor the decade or two of sacrifice.
Just saying, that even the rosiest of airline outcomes is facing strong competition from fairly pedestrian careers. Pilots seem to live in a bubble. Often we don't stop to consider the opportunity cost of the lives we are choosing. Why do we put ourselves through this? 10-25 years to reach a position that can support a family is not great.
Real Estate is crushing it right now too.
Its great to encounter you again by the way.
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