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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
(Post 2571367)
Purposefully being bitter is just a gigantic waste of life. Why not use the company for what it is, (paycheck, health insurance, retirement, travel benefits etc.) and then go home and forget it exists? Too many guys are getting wrapped around the axle about the identity of this airline. The branding, the paint on the airplanes, the advertising..... That sh!t is way above our pay grade. We just fly what they put in front of us. Going out of your way to be angry is gonna bring you to an early grave.
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I'm an outsider and I gladly left AAG eight years ago and never looked back. The VX proposal is absolutely preposterous!!! It would be a huge windfall for just about every VX Pilot. There is no way that a VX Pilot with 11 yrs. of seniority should be paired with a pilot from AS that has been there 30+ years.
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Originally Posted by opdeliber
(Post 2571245)
I'm making less than I did when we were all virgin, even with the pay raise. Your, unfortunately our, company is a joke and its idiots like you who makes it that way.
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
(Post 2571553)
I'm an outsider and I gladly left AAG eight years ago and never looked back. The VX proposal is absolutely preposterous!!! It would be a huge windfall for just about every VX Pilot. There is no way that a VX Pilot with 11 yrs. of seniority should be paired with a pilot from AS that has been there 30+ years.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2571488)
Indeed. Why are so many people trying to make this into a Hutu vs Tutsi tribalism thing? It's embarrassing.
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Originally Posted by Work4life
(Post 2571563)
Never let your coworker smoke crack and negotiate!
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Originally Posted by OCCP
(Post 2571251)
I have very low expectations but even if I come out ok I’ll still cry foul just to pi$$ you off, boy. You have a lot anger towards us. Like someone said earlier, Alaska guys spend too much time mad at each other or other pilots instead of fighting for a better contract. There’s not one thing I like about Alaska but after 15 years in the industry I’m just over starting at the bottom again. I’m going to be a bitter, sour soul for the rest of my career!
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Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 2571569)
Shoot for the moon and hope you get over the fence. All the arbitrator can say is no, so why not go for the gusto?
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
(Post 2571572)
2loud spent too much time giving up scope and a host of other gains that EVERY SINGLE OTHER MAJOR AIRLINE HAS, and is spending too much time being angry at VX. Another perfect example of the sheltered bubble that some AS pilots live in.
As for your comment, you really don't have any credibility or the right to stand on a soap box and preach. Let's see. You flew for VX, a non-unionized pilot group except for the last few months just before the buyout, when you guys realized that you needed ALPA protection as an acquisition was on the horizon. You willingly worked for a company that undercut everyone and chose to work for subpar wages with no concrete work rules, thereby brining down the rest of the industry. If anything, you guys lowered the bar substantially than anything. You didn't even have a contract. What does that make you? A hair above a scab! |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2569727)
When they opened it up, they agreed to a definite timeline and arbitration if needed. At that point the company just dug in, probably knowing arbitration would lean in their favor.
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