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Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 2570241)

To the Virgin Atlantic (est. 1984) and Virgin Australia (est. 1999) guys, what would you say? It wouldn't have been unreasonable for someone to hope for a long and healthy career under the Virgin brand.

Are those other two versions of Virgin as woefully unprofitable as Virgin America was? I doubt it. Apples and oranges.

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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2570315)

Not my fault they chose wrong, but they're getting 7 years of free seniority without earning it while my AS MEC represents them in their efforts.
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That means you chose right? So You chose AS over Delta, AA, UA, SW, UPS and FedEx? Because you like being 5th best? AS was your first choice?

How old are you? There is no way to tell what airline is going to offer you the best career. Ask TWA, Pan Am, Braniff Pilots how their careers worked out. Are they idiots too?? Pre 9/11, FedEx and Southwest Airlines is where you went if you had a DUI. Post 9/11it’s the place everyone wants to be.

Grow up and don’t bring that “they chose wrong” non sense here. You are clearly upset AS bought VX and they have to merge the list now. Newsflash, VX Pilots aren’t exactly excited about all this either. But it is what it is, and make the best of it.

Every day I come to APC to read the Alaska threads it makes more and more sense, why you guys have such louse contracts. There is no unity. Too many bitter guys that want to take it out on each other rather than their management.

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Originally Posted by tacoma1946 (Post 2570112)

You must be VX. Why should a pilot that started in 2007 be matched with a guy that was hired 30 years ago? What you are saying is a 25 year old that was hired as a co pilot by VX in 2007 will be matched with a 60 year old that was hired 30 years ago. Really?

I am going to chuckle at you the day the list comes out. I know it's not nice to laugh at dumb people, but I won't be able to help myself. You are so dumb it is actually kind of funny.

Finally, the first thing I will like about Alaska Airlines... being senior to you specifically. Thanks for holding our place the last seven years at this terrible place that none of us want to have been forced into.

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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2570315)

Not my fault they chose wrong, but they're getting 7 years of free seniority without earning it while my AS MEC represents them in their efforts.

My blue (which is supposed to be orange but they caved on that too like everything else) lanyard is in the trash.

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Originally Posted by tacoma1946 (Post 2570146)

It is not a straight doh. You start at 2007 since that is when you were created. You then do the 1 for 3 or what ever the ratio is. That is all you deserve. Sorry but that is life.

Tacoma, you deserve the bitterness that it takes to be you because you are a sad individual. I want to meet you so that I can laugh at you.

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Originally Posted by SactisbonesBJ (Post 2569604)

I think thats cus you dont relaize VX had guys who were at Aloha, ATA, USAirways, Midwest, etc. Give them longevity for their time there then.

Unfortunately, that's not the way it works in the airline business. Do the guys going from AS to DL get their AS longevity?

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Originally Posted by PokerPilot007 (Post 2570140)

Remove first 300 super senior Alaska pilots and place them on the side. Then relative seniority starting at 301 (assume that’s the new #1), once your done re-paste the 300 back on top of the list and call it a day. Solved.

You're the first guy to make any sense in this entire thread.

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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive (Post 2570540)

Tacoma, you deserve the bitterness that it takes to be you because you are a sad individual. I want to meet you so that I can laugh at you.

I already met you and was not impressed.

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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2570315)

Well it looks like you chose wrong then to pal. You chose an airline not knowing it was going to merge and now you have to go through an SLI where you may end up junior to someone hired after you. “Not my fault”. Life’s not fair. Get over it.

Guys, guys (and gals)... Be nice...

Let's have a debate on the issue and not make it too personal, as hard as that may be at times for some...

It's All Bizniz! 😁