I doubt anyone destroyed the other. That’s kind of a bad thing to say if we end up getting hosed.


Alaska management is destroying this company. That’s the only destruction I see.

 

Yep. Tilden is openly worried that this merger was a mistake. If VX gets gifted 20 years longevity, He has no idea how big a mistake this was. Forget all about 2020 and some perceived contractual gains. This place will be engulfed in flames.

 

not saying you are wrong, in fact I believe anyone with a brain would agree this merger was a mistake, but where is the source for tilden thinking it was a mistake? Curious to read that for a laugh

 

Tilden may worry the merger is a mistake but not because of the Pilot SLI. Pilots tend to think way too highly of their position in the company.
If Mgmt allowed the Kasher award to become implemented then there’s proof that individual pilot moral is not in the top 50 concerns of the Mgmt.

 

"That's why we believe we're here and that's why we --we even had to go through the strain of this relationship for everything we've built and have, you know, unfortunately our pilots not happy with the company.· We're willing to jeopardize that because we believe we'd be jeopardizing the business model and that's why we're here today."

 

“unfortunately our pilots not happy with the company.· [B]We're willing to jeopardize that” This needs to be on a sticker and proudly displayed on every one of our bags. A daily reminder for all of us of who we work for and why we need to stick together.

 

Pretty much sums up our management to a T! Thanks Benny!

 

I find it interesting that people think longevity is of a common currency value. One year of longevity at one company does not equal the same value as another. If you get hired at a rapidly growing organization, or one with high turn over, your advancement in seniority would result in a high relative value to your longevity. If you get hired by a stagnant company that hasn't grown, fallen on rough economic times or has little to no turn over, the appraisal of your longevity would not hold as much value on a per year basis.

This is of course assuming you consider a year of service to be "worth" something.

I understand where pilots get attached to the DOH/Longevity thing because we live in a seniority based system. But your currency only trades equal if all things remain the same. You exchange rate would to vary significantly once you leave the borders of your localized seniority list.

Just a thought.

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True, but when relative and longevity are roughly equal then there’s no reason for one side to benefit over the other. Both proposals do not reflect that.

 

If you have 20 years in and after the SLI you are at a higher percentage in the combined group than you were before, have you been harmed?