Seniority Proposals
05-17-2018 | 06:56 AM
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Actually there are a handful of pilots here at VX who basically skipped a step or two and got hired super young who are now very senior. It’s not fair in a sense, but pilots don’t hire pilots, and it would be more unfair to punish everyone below them on the list. There will be individual winners and losers, there always are. .. I’m also curious why Moose thinks he could have been #1 at Virgin. Did he have 10,000 hours and a bunch of Airbus PIC time in 2006?
05-17-2018 | 07:26 AM
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Not trying to stir the pot but I am curious as to where the senior VX guys logged their previous Airbus hours? No doubt there are plenty of highly experienced pilots on the VX side due to airline casualties. I can empathize being a product of Braniff and Eastern parents.
05-17-2018 | 07:48 AM
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Not trying to stir the pot but I am curious as to where the senior VX guys logged their previous Airbus hours? No doubt there are plenty of highly experienced pilots on the VX side due to airline casualties. I can empathize being a product of Braniff and Eastern parents.
America West
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05-17-2018 | 08:34 AM
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Btw, not by choice.
05-17-2018 | 09:14 AM
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I have been asked to refrain from engaging on this subject as it is highly controversial. This will be my last post on this subject. People are so emotional charged, no one thinks or acts logical. This is my first merger, it will not be my last. In the next merger the VX pilots will be represented by B&K. Alaska’s proposal will be adopted almost in its entirety, except for the backend feathering. Everyones longevity will be respected, including the VX pilots. Closing JFK is a tough pill to swallow, it will have the biggest impact on the VX pilot group, not the ISL. In base no one will be impacted by this merger, nothing will change. No captain will be reduced to a FO. Your bidding power will be unaffected. Scheduling, well that is a totally different subject and most likely will not be fixed until the next negotiations. I don’t think there is one Alaska pilot happy with our proposal, I doubt there are many VX pilots happy with the Alaska proposal. In the end, if this outcome sends you into fits of rage you need to move on. Everyone is hiring, there is a very real possibility you could find your new seniority number, at your new company, rendering you a significantly better career. Good luck to everyone, we will all be OK.
05-17-2018 | 10:32 AM
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I have been asked to refrain from engaging on this subject as it is highly controversial. This will be my last post on this subject. People are so emotional charged, no one thinks or acts logical. This is my first merger, it will not be my last. In the next merger the VX pilots will be represented by B&K. Alaska’s proposal will be adopted almost in its entirety, except for the backend feathering. Everyones longevity will be respected, including the VX pilots. Closing JFK is a tough pill to swallow, it will have the biggest impact on the VX pilot group, not the ISL. In base no one will be impacted by this merger, nothing will change. No captain will be reduced to a FO. Your bidding power will be unaffected. Scheduling, well that is a totally different subject and most likely will not be fixed until the next negotiations. I don’t think there is one Alaska pilot happy with our proposal, I doubt there are many VX pilots happy with the Alaska proposal. In the end, if this outcome sends you into fits of rage you need to move on. Everyone is hiring, there is a very real possibility you could find your new seniority number, at your new company, rendering you a significantly better career. Good luck to everyone, we will all be OK.
05-17-2018 | 10:36 AM
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Not trying to stir the pot but I am curious as to where the senior VX guys logged their previous Airbus hours? No doubt there are plenty of highly experienced pilots on the VX side due to airline casualties. I can empathize being a product of Braniff and Eastern parents.
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And a plethora of guys with foreign bus time.
05-17-2018 | 11:49 AM
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I have been asked to refrain from engaging on this subject as it is highly controversial. This will be my last post on this subject. People are so emotional charged, no one thinks or acts logical. This is my first merger, it will not be my last. In the next merger the VX pilots will be represented by B&K. Alaska’s proposal will be adopted almost in its entirety, except for the backend feathering. Everyones longevity will be respected, including the VX pilots. Closing JFK is a tough pill to swallow, it will have the biggest impact on the VX pilot group, not the ISL. In base no one will be impacted by this merger, nothing will change. No captain will be reduced to a FO. Your bidding power will be unaffected. Scheduling, well that is a totally different subject and most likely will not be fixed until the next negotiations. I don’t think there is one Alaska pilot happy with our proposal, I doubt there are many VX pilots happy with the Alaska proposal. In the end, if this outcome sends you into fits of rage you need to move on. Everyone is hiring, there is a very real possibility you could find your new seniority number, at your new company, rendering you a significantly better career. Good luck to everyone, we will all be OK.
05-17-2018 | 12:50 PM
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05-17-2018 | 02:14 PM
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