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AltoCumulus 05-07-2018 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by ZINTKAZ (Post 2587218)
I bet those 321NEOs are gonna be around a while. A few former VX pilots I talked with seemed to really like them. Then again what do I know I’m just a Boeing guy.LOL

Right...because how well pilots “like” an airplane is a factor in determining if AS keeps them or it.

Big Perm 07-02-2018 02:14 PM

If you could change one thing about Alaska's reserve rules what would it be?

ShyGuy 07-02-2018 02:52 PM

AS reserve rules are now bottom of the industry when compared to the big 6 carriers. jetBlue's new TA is pretty good for reserves. AS reserve is equivalent to regionals, but that's an insult because some regionals have better reserve rules. What mainline carrier today still has 12 days off and 18 or 19 reserve days per month every month? AS does. :rolleyes:

flysnoopy76 07-02-2018 03:29 PM

What does Alaska’s reserve system offer that’s better than even the regionals with poor reserve rules? No airport reserve, about all I can think of.
But in reality Alaska is a regional airline, it does offer better pay and retirement for sure, and the planes are bigger, but beyond that that’s pretty much what it is. That isn’t meant to bash it, it just simply seems to be the case, and management seems to be perfectly happy with it being what it is.

DangleDunlops 07-02-2018 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Big Perm (Post 2626386)
If you could change one thing about Alaska's reserve rules what would it be?

15 days off
self assignment day before
LC needs to count toward day being available for “trade with self”

But right now it’s hard to tell what rules might help, CS doesn’t follow them anyway.

MiLtoMajor123 07-02-2018 04:59 PM

I'd like to see something a little different. I don't like that Seniority has no effect on who gets called or not. Right now it's the low credit guy that gets the call....which is fair....but this is not a "fair" system given that Seniority is king. I'd like a 10 hour buffer rule which would be this:

If two or more pilots are up for a call out.....and All pilots involved have selected "Don't Schedule Me", I think the call should go to the more Junior pilot. With the exception if the Senior pilot has 10 (maybe 20?) less credit than the next Junior guy in line at the time of the call out.....the Senior guy should get it. That way the Junior guy still is used more ....and the Senior guy doesn't get to not fly for a month.

Right now the "Don't Schedule Me" option has little or no effect if they call you or not. They still call the low time guy with very little exception from what I have seen.

Chuckie 07-02-2018 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2626413)
What mainline carrier today still has 12 days off and 18 or 19 reserve days per month every month? AS does. :rolleyes:

American. 12 days off per month on a 30-day month, 13 off on a 31. Reserve work rules (and what the company tries to get away with) are pretty terrible, too.

cmrflyer 07-03-2018 01:16 AM

Doesn’t Alaska go with 24hrs free from duty? If they do that means you really don’t have any days off.
I believe virgin has 13 days off already. And they are real days.

lowflying 07-03-2018 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by cmrflyer (Post 2626723)
Doesn’t Alaska go with 24hrs free from duty? If they do that means you really don’t have any days off.
I believe virgin has 13 days off already. And they are real days.

We definitely need calendar days off; right now it’s 24 hour periods. The VX reserve rules are great and VX long call was too good to be true. VX had 14 hour callout with 10hours rest after any assignment. That guaranteed you wouldn’t have a trip for 24hours after you finish an assignment.

Bugaboo 07-03-2018 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2626785)
We definitely need calendar days off; right now it’s 24 hour periods. The VX reserve rules are great and VX long call was too good to be true. VX had 14 hour callout with 10hours rest after any assignment. That guaranteed you wouldn’t have a trip for 24hours after you finish an assignment.

Not true....If you are gonna post work rule info make sure it is correct.
IF they contact you within :15 minutes of your block in time CSS can give you an assignment that day if you have time remaining..or for a trip more than 10 hours out to comply with your required rest.
AFTER :15 min you are uncontactable and will be off for 10 hours and then a 14 hour callout.


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