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lowflying 07-03-2018 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Bugaboo (Post 2626965)
Not true....If you are gonna post work rule info make sure it is correct.
IF they contact you within :15 minutes of your block in time CSS can give you an assignment that day if you have time remaining..or for a trip more than 10 hours out to comply with your required rest.
AFTER :15 min you are uncontactable and will be off for 10 hours and then a 14 hour callout.

A thousand pardons for my complete lack of understanding of the rule book. I’ll refrain from posting any more lies hence forth...

av8or 07-03-2018 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2626785)
We definitely need calendar days off; right now it’s 24 hour periods. The VX reserve rules are great and VX long call was too good to be true. VX had 14 hour callout with 10hours rest after any assignment. That guaranteed you wouldn’t have a trip for 24hours after you finish an assignment.

Agree. If you live in base it’s not AS bad. If you don’t, it’s brutal. Case in point. I commute. Got my 24 hrs off between last block of reserve in June and first block in July. Not enough time to go home. So twelve days in Seattle is the result. Not complaining. Just reality. For now.

Bugaboo 07-03-2018 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2626987)
A thousand pardons for my complete lack of understanding of the rule book. I’ll refrain from posting any more lies hence forth...

You don't have to act butthurt.
Know your contract and work rules.
And fly by them:)
Its your contract and you should know how it pertains to you.
Or in your case...work rules..for a couple more months.

ShyGuy 07-03-2018 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Chuckie (Post 2626709)
American. 12 days off per month on a 30-day month, 13 off on a 31. Reserve work rules (and what the company tries to get away with) are pretty terrible, too.

That would still be an improvement. Those are real days off and you get 12/13. So you owe 18 reserve days per month regardless of 30/31 days. At AS, days off on reserve aren't calendar days, they are hour offs. So 2 days off are written as 48 hrs off. 3 days as 72 hrs off.

av8or 07-03-2018 02:02 PM

For those watching from the sidelines....
 
The contract requires 12 24hr periods off per month on reserve. That means if you get done at 10am from a trip and the next day your reserve available period starts at 16:45, Congrats you just got a day off. I do, per the contract, have 12 24hr periods off in July. I have a total off 8 days clear of duty in July.

I’m just telling anyone this that’s thinking of coming here, that’s the deal so you’ll know beforehand.

lowflying 07-05-2018 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Bugaboo (Post 2626996)
You don't have to act butthurt.
Know your contract and work rules.
And fly by them:)
Its your contract and you should know how it pertains to you.
Or in your case...work rules..for a couple more months.

I was just reciprocating your over the top response to my minor omission. :) Who says I work for vx? I just took the time to browse through their work rules. Next time I'll quote line and verse for you...

Bugaboo 07-06-2018 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2628635)
I was just reciprocating your over the top response to my minor omission. :) Who says I work for vx? I just took the time to browse through their work rules. Next time I'll quote line and verse for you...

Please do that next time.
Chapter and paragraph😄

m3113n1a1 07-12-2018 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by av8or (Post 2627192)
The contract requires 12 24hr periods off per month on reserve. That means if you get done at 10am from a trip and the next day your reserve available period starts at 16:45, Congrats you just got a day off. I do, per the contract, have 12 24hr periods off in July. I have a total off 8 days clear of duty in July.

I’m just telling anyone this that’s thinking of coming here, that’s the deal so you’ll know beforehand.

You don't get pre-determined days off??

av8or 07-12-2018 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2633720)
You don't get pre-determined days off??

Yes you do get predetermined days off. But, there are a few different versions of what a “day” off is.

Version 1. A day a from 12 midnight till 12 midnight. What most people refer to as a day free off duty. 24 hrs.

Version 2. A predetermined 24 hr period following or preceding duty. As an example, if your duty from assignment or reserve ended at 11am, and you had to be on duty at 11am the next day.... congrats.... you just got a day off.

Version 3. A 24hr period or more free of duty, while on a layover. So, fly a red eye to Atlanta land at 6am and leave the next morning at 6am. You’ll get paid for the flight there and the flight back only. This type of pay doesn’t count toward your min 12 days off, but, for pay purposes, it’s a day off because you aren’t compensated.

symbian simian 07-12-2018 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by av8or (Post 2633773)
Yes you do get predetermined days off. But, there are a few different versions of what a “day” off is.

Version 1. A day a from 12 midnight till 12 midnight. What most people refer to as a day free off duty. 24 hrs.

Version 2. A predetermined 24 hr period following or preceding duty. As an example, if your duty from assignment or reserve ended at 11am, and you had to be on duty at 11am the next day.... congrats.... you just got a day off.

Version 3. A 24hr period or more free of duty, while on a layover. So, fly a red eye to Atlanta land at 6am and leave the next morning at 6am. You’ll get paid for the flight there and the flight back only. This type of pay doesn’t count toward your min 12 days off, but, for pay purposes, it’s a day off because you aren’t compensated.

Holy C**P, that is awful. Please tell me there is some required time off in base....
Even at NK it is (wayyyyy) better:
12 calendar days off in domicile, 4 calendar days off between blocks of work.


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