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Packrat 07-12-2018 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 2633489)
Seems like there are many people who feel another merger/acquisition/buyout is a given. I’m curious as to what it is that makes Alaska an attractive target to one of the major airlines.

"Someone" has been about to buy Alaska for at least the 28 years I've been around the Company. Since 1987, the only buyers have been Alaska themselves...first Jet America and now Virgin America.

No matter how much you may want it, the Anglers aren't going to sell the goose that's laying the golden eggs. For them, at least.

Packrat 07-12-2018 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2633508)
...including a strike, which can happen if we grow enough balls & apply enough pressure.

IF you actually did get to self-help D.C. would toss a PEB on you so fast it would make your head spin.

Let's see: You know nothing about State of Alaska cargo. (Strike One)

You know nothing about PEBs. (Strike Two)

You know nothing about the history of contract negotiations between ALPA and Angle Lake. (Strike Three)

You're out.

Speed Pilot 07-12-2018 05:47 PM

A PEB only delays the strike by an additional 30 days. So 30 days cooling off plus 30 days PEB. Worth the wait if we can get it.

Max Thrust 07-12-2018 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2633715)
No matter how much you may want it, the Anglers aren't going to sell the goose that's laying the golden eggs. For them, at least.

All public companies are for sale

ASpilot0936 07-12-2018 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2633719)
IF you actually did get to self-help D.C. would toss a PEB on you so fast it would make your head spin.

Let's see: You know nothing about State of Alaska cargo. (Strike One)

You know nothing about PEBs. (Strike Two)

You know nothing about the history of contract negotiations between ALPA and Angle Lake. (Strike Three)

You're out.


Know who I'm talking to? I don't do well with threats. I hope you're higher up ALPA/MEC. If so, I'd say grow a pair of balls, stand up to brad & ben, start actually representing us & stop folding on things as simple as a lanyard. Do these things if you think you're going to get any unity out of this group. The majority will agree with me and if you don't think so, then you're out of touch with this pilot group.



As far as ALPA history regarding negotiations with Angle Lake, I know all I need to know. ALPA is at least 0 for 2 so far (Kasher & last year, let me know if I left out anything)..... Change is needed.

ZINTKAZ 07-12-2018 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2633508)
I hope so, becasue that means you're senior. And as soon as you senior pukes who don't give a $hit about anybody below you retire..........


Nice to lump all the senior guys in one category and how they think. History seems to be correct that some guys like you spew this volatile name calling and angst usually become the quintessential “I got mine” once you become senior. Usually...........
Unity is what we need in this workforce and it is seriously lacking in the leadership of our union. Once everybody stops doing the “diving catch” to make up for crappy operation practices. Management won’t give a sh&t.

ASpilot0936 07-12-2018 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by ZINTKAZ (Post 2633817)
Nice to lump all the senior guys in one category and how they think. History seems to be correct that some guys like you spew this volatile name calling and angst usually become the quintessential “I got mine” once you become senior. Usually...........
Unity is what we need in this workforce and it is seriously lacking in the leadership of our union. Once everybody stops doing the “diving catch” to make up for crappy operation practices. Management won’t give a sh&t.


I'll give you that. I retract my previous statement & I'll restate......


And as soon as you VSA/premium pickup pukes who don't give a $hit about anybody below you retire, the rest of us who give a damn about our livelihood can get to the business of getting a better contract using the all tools available to us including a strike, which can happen if we grow enough balls & apply enough pressure.

KnockKnock 07-13-2018 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2633715)
"Someone" has been about to buy Alaska for at least the 28 years I've been around the Company. Since 1987, the only buyers have been Alaska themselves...first Jet America and now Virgin America.

No matter how much you may want it, the Anglers aren't going to sell the goose that's laying the golden eggs. For them, at least.

Packrat, do you currently work for AS?

Packrat 07-13-2018 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2633965)
Packrat, do you currently work for AS?

Nope. Retired after 24 years. However, I do have a bit more insight into the Alaska freight market than some folks here.

KnockKnock 07-13-2018 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2634054)
Nope. Retired after 24 years. However, I do have a bit more insight into the Alaska freight market than some folks here.

Oh, I’m not saying you don’t. There just seems to be confusion about your current position with the company. Thanks for clarifying.


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