They are not and have not been pushovers....They have never had our support ever....If we commit today to “ no pick up, no premium, no vsa , no extensions, no favors and do as MEA did and fly minimum, then just maybe they will have a voice at the table....slow our overly consumptive lives down now...live on 70 hrs now, disengage now and by 2020 we might get what we want or at least get what we need. While Alaska has never been a career airline it has been a decent job at 70 hrs or less....

And after taxes what is that?

Ever been divorced and have to pay alimony and child support while supporting your new family having remarried?

Ever been stuck fighting an insane medical bill after a family member recovers or dies from a serious ailment?

Ever been sued, rightly or wrongly and had a judgment against you?

Try taking care of a old/sick parent in a nursing home.

Try living in the desirable neighborhoods with good schools for your kids in the North East or in CA....

My point is that each individual circumstance is different and a person may not necessarily be "doing something wrong" to be struggling financially earning $200,000 or more...

Yes, there are high earning individuals who are irresponsible with their money, but until you've walked in a person's shoes, I would be hesitant to paint with such broad strokes.....

How how much money you need to make in San Francisco to buy a home - Business Insider

“San Francisco's housing market is so dire, people need to make over $300,000 a year to afford the typical home” -Business Insider, 2/21/18

They already are. They're still in the mindset that we should be paid 5th best.


Throw them all out I say.

Why can't it be? If everyone grows a pair & stops helping the company with their premium problems........

You’re right, those things are terrible. Those problems aren’t just pilots, that can be anyone. People have gone through those things and done that while making far less than $200k. My point is that even at min 70 hrs, we are in the top 6-7% of the population.

Being in the top 6-7% means nothing, if I can't afford to live for example in San Francisco where I'm based unless I am prepared drive 2-3 hours to get to work.

As I recall, your point was basically that if you are in the top 6-7% and struggling financially, "you are doing it wrong". I just wanted to remind you that there are many legitimate reasons why some high earning pilots may have money issues.

As for surviving that situation? Pilot or not, I am willing to bet the farm that while anyone earning 200k or more facing any one of those crippling circumstances may be able to survive from paycheck to paycheck; those who earn much less often don't stand a chance and among other things, typically end up losing their homes and/or declaring bankruptcy at significantly greater rates. It's just Math. (An inside VX joke I'm sure you'll appreciate lol)

Now you're just being "reckless!" :D

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Deee Ceee in the building! 🤣😂🤣

How is this achieved with line bidding? I thought most lines were minimum 75 with the average AS line holder working closer to 85 Average (Just hearsay... from what I've heard).

Do you drop trips to other line holders? Are you top seniority such that you can bid more days off?

Trying to develop strategies for maintaining a healthy work life balance when line bidding comes....