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ForeverJunior 06-24-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by grkero (Post 2620306)
Do you bid for lines that are in that high 80s range? It seems like you'd be better off bidding for something in the high 70s instead, and not having to deal with step trading.

We are in flex-up months. Lines average 85 hours. Lines in high 70's are few and far between. I like to bid 3-day trips on the same days every week... for example Thursday-Saturday or Sunday-Tuesday. These types of pure/consistent lines are usually high credit (85+). They might have a 2-day and a turn or two sprinkled in there. The 2-days and turns are easy to drop or trade for during step trading. Last resort, turns and some 2-days are easy to give away p2p.

If they would ever write consistent & pure 3 on / 4 off lines worth 75-78 hours, I would bid those and save them and myself the time with step trading. But, since they insist on writing loaded lines, some of us have to put in the extra effort to whittle away at them by any means necessary (carry-in trips, bidding lines with trips that are easy to give away, sprinkling vacation days here and there, etc.).

OCCP 06-24-2018 09:18 AM

That sounds sooo much better than pbs[emoji849]

Klsytakesit 06-24-2018 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by OCCP (Post 2620777)
That sounds sooo much better than pbs[emoji849]

You surely know by now why PBS isa no-go with current work rules/payrates. The people that run Alaska Airlines dont like you and are not nice people

OCCP 06-24-2018 07:39 PM

I get it. It’s just somewhat laughable that Alaska guys act like this step trading bs is some sort of awesome thing that makes them superior.

Almost every single aspect of this “legacy” contract is worse than what us loser vx’ers had. I hope most AS folks finally grow a f-ing spine in 2020. But judging by the pm’s I get I don’t think that will happen. They seem to indicate that they’re unhappy but expect the Virgins to lead the charge.

ForeverJunior 06-24-2018 07:44 PM

I never said step trading is awesome. But, that's what we have to work with right now. So, trying to make the best of it.

OCCP 06-24-2018 08:07 PM

I hear you man. On a side note, It’s sad to watch this airline drive itself into the ground. Mgmt successfully pitted all employee groups against one another and no one gives a s h I t anymore. Just today on the VX side, they are cold calling Ca, fo’s, and inflight on their days off trying desperately to get people to jumpseat to random cities to work certain flights out before they cancel. Creating an airline people love....

ForeverJunior 06-24-2018 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by OCCP (Post 2621211)
I hear you man. On a side note, It’s sad to watch this airline drive itself into the ground. Mgmt successfully pitted all employee groups against one another and no one gives a s h I t anymore. Just today on the VX side, they are cold calling Ca, fo’s, and inflight on their days off trying desperately to get people to jumpseat to random cities to work certain flights out before they cancel. Creating an airline people love....

Sad state of affairs for sure. Angle Lake displaying zero leadership once again.

No vision...

The PNW customer loyalty is going to dry up soon and that's when these bean counters will finally cash out.

Outdoors 06-24-2018 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by OCCP (Post 2621211)
I hear you man. On a side note, It’s sad to watch this airline drive itself into the ground. Mgmt successfully pitted all employee groups against one another and no one gives a s h I t anymore. Just today on the VX side, they are cold calling Ca, fo’s, and inflight on their days off trying desperately to get people to jumpseat to random cities to work certain flights out before they cancel. Creating an airline people love....

Sounds like the horizon of last year.

DelTacoBowl 06-25-2018 10:05 AM

They are short pilots? Then why are they cancelling new hire classes? Thats frustrating for those of us hired in Feb.


Originally Posted by OCCP (Post 2621211)
I hear you man. On a side note, It’s sad to watch this airline drive itself into the ground. Mgmt successfully pitted all employee groups against one another and no one gives a s h I t anymore. Just today on the VX side, they are cold calling Ca, fo’s, and inflight on their days off trying desperately to get people to jumpseat to random cities to work certain flights out before they cancel. Creating an airline people love....


flysnoopy76 06-25-2018 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by DelTacoBowl (Post 2621619)
They are short pilots? Then why are they cancelling new hire classes? Thats frustrating for those of us hired in Feb.

It’s frustrating but part of the reason is there’s going to be 40 ish percent or more on reserve in sfo once we get to September due to interior changes and painting. At least there’s no involuntary downgrades or furloughs yet


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