[QUOTE=Skyward;2649706]Say you own a Ferrari and every time you leave the house to go for a drive you announce, I’m taking my Ferrari for a drive instead of simply saying I’m taking the car for a ride. Using “the jet” vs the aircraft or the plane is pompous.

What relevance does this have? Sorry but what are YOUR pay rates and overrides? Who cares what bigger or different equipment other people fly? What do you have and what did YOU negotiate to fly there? That’s all that matters. Oh, and how are your ticket sales and cargo both ways? Pretty sure all the equipment you mentioned are all larger and already have those networks established.

I need some “kernals” as I watch this talk about the “colonels”.

[QUOTE=Myfingershurt;2652971]Oh good lord..... seriously? THIS??!! This is a discussion worth having? I could care less... honestly. As far as I’m concerned you can say.... “I have the Poptart.” Or ... “my thingamajig...” whatever.

Bigger fish to fry. Priorities.

Saying "the jet" is the equivalent of saying "the car" in terms of meaning. It's like saying "the car" or "the truck" if you have one of each vs saying "the automobile." Your analogy didn't mean what you thought it meant...

Who the he!! cares? Good gawd... :facepalm:

Right?! ALL because some poster here decided to call out another for using the term "the jet" a few pages back. "Hall monitor" was his junior high profession I guess. :rolleyes:

let me shed some light on this moronic conversation. It is a history lesson for you wounded children. At Alaska “The Jet”is a term coined by the people of the small towns and villages across Alaska. ie.. Has the Jet landed yet or are you taking the Jet to town or the Jet didnt make it in or a hundred other examples used daily. Picked up by pilots and fa’s and used in daily conversations. Of course the term found its way into the training department 30 years ago and has been handed down unintentionally over the years. The SEA base with and excess of tool bags(as one might expect) seems to over-use the term. the end

My jet is bigger than your jet.

I’d venture a guess that no one in Alaska, the state or the airline “coined” the term “The Jet”. You’re explanation doesn’t shed light on why other airlines use the same terminology. Us lowly Alaska pilots don’t have nearly enough influence to shape the linguistic stylings of other pilots at other companies. I like your confidence though.

Nobody... and I mean NOBODY uses that phrase on the ‘bus unless it’s in jest.

Perhaps that’s how future generations of Alaska (or Jetblue, Southwest, Delta, etc) will distinguish VX pilots from AS.

Those who are calling out the people who say “the jet” are Virtue Signaling. They’re basically saying Hey, I’m morally superior to you because I’m humble enough to say “the plane” versus you arrogant types who feel the need to say “the jet”.

Whatever. I guess you folks need something to make you feel like you’re better than the next guy.

The JET, or The PLANE. WGAF?!

That’s because the Airbus is more of a toy than a Jet.... :) I’m gonna start saying “the Jet”, so everyone from here on out knows that I’m an “original” Alaska pilot...... Honestly, who cares? We at AS must be pretty well off if all we can scrounge up to squabble about is the use of the term, “the Jet”. We all know this ain’t true so let’s get over this. I fly with guys that say things I wouldn’t say all the time. I don’t whine about it and I don’t act as if what I say is superior to what they say. B n B are probably reading this thread and laughing so effin hard right now about upcoming negotiations.

When I’m flying the 321 I’m going to start saying “you’ve got the geared turbofan”

The irony of dude calling an Airbus "the bus" while crying about another dude calling a jet, "the jet." Simply the most entertaining thread all week

You'll all be on the "Jet" sooner than later, so prepare to be absorbed by the Borg.

Alaska will never be bought by one of the big 3. They will merge with a smaller or possibly Southwest.

Ok do you have any facts or precedence that you’re basing this blanket statement on?
This site provides all past mergers-

http://airlines.org/dataset/u-s-airline-mergers-and-acquisitions/

I just don't see the government, whatever party in power, allowing a merger of that size. Nobody knows for sure and I'm just basing my guess off of articles written by analyst. Most work groups would probably enjoy getting taken over by the top 4 as the Alaska wants their workers number 5 in pay.

Some of their workers. Their slope preference isn’t really favorable for a #5 carrier.

AS $259, B6 $259, WN $258

What am I missing? They are all essentially the same. Maybe some work rules and duty rigs help one vs the other, but the basic rates are equal???

Don't brush away the value of work rules so easily. When you compare W2's and how much time pilots at each airline are away from the home to generate that income, the differences become stark.

We essentially get paid by block time and straight hourly. No enhancements, no overides, no extras. If you credit 80 hrs in a month, you likely blocked 80 hrs. Which is why Delta and SWA fo’s out earn Alaska captains.

This administration would allow ANY merger. Blocking mergers is for consumer protection, that's not a R/Trump priority in my opinion.

This is garbage... made $317k last year no perduim or 401k included. Have made $248k so far this year, $350-370k by the end of the year. I live in base, never less then 15 days off. Grow up! I have a couple buddies at SWA that are FO’s... they do not make anything close to me.

The resident troll is back. :rolleyes:

This administration blocked or attempted to block the Broadcom/Qualcom and AT&T/Time Warner

You also seem like the type of person the company loves to have when they need a hand

You can tell the difference today. Legacy AS employees wear their ID horizontal and the legacy VX wear their ID vertical.

This adminstration might not be in office in 2 years. And I don't think anyone will want to take on AS/VX until the dust has settled. From what I've heard this merger has been harder than expected. I can't see BT/BM wanting to go through it again with another merger.

Anyone who's serious about a big, boundary-pushing merger (in any industry) will initiate it in less than 12 months, to ensure they have the best chance at approval before any potential regime change.

I would bet on no airline merger in the next couple years. I think Alaska management has a bad taste in their mouth. I don't think BM will be the next CEO either.

I would agree, although it might not be up to them.

[QUOTE=av8or;2653211]WAIT... There are guys on the line that tell each other. "I have THE jet"/ "You have the THE jet?"

LMAO This is hilarious! You big jet pilots you! Not the hallway monitor, just trying to save someone the embarrassment in the future.

P.S. We need better work rules. What are we, number 7 now?

[QUOTE=Beta82;2654666]That would be an incorrect statement, since it implies that no other jets exist. “I have a jet” would be correct, but unhelpful. One must therefore say “I have this jet”, while tapping the glareshield with an index finger. :D

Doing some quick math, $248k YTD, means you have been making on avg. $35,428.57 per month. If you break that down by the month, assuming you are at the top of the scale, you are crediting 137 hours per. Yet you don’t work more than 16 days a month. Do tell how you are doing this. I’m really curious.

His side job, as a street performer.;)

Would you say that the opportunity to make this kind of credit with that number of days off is a realistic opportunity for a large part of the pilot group, or just a small portion with very high seniority in each seat and base?

If it's really only available for 20 to 50 pilots system wide who hold the top few numbers in each seat and base, your own experience doesn't amount to much for the rest of us.

For numbers like that to have any relevance, the work rules need to allow a large portion of the pilot group to be able to achieve this kind of credit and days of if they choose, not just the few ultra senior.