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Originally Posted by Saltlife85
(Post 2655669)
We also have FO’s leaving to Envoy Air for direct captain spots.
But BM said this merger is about growth! What a joke of a company |
If you’re a FO in your 20s or 30s, you’d be a fool to stay here. With the exception of PDX (and even that may be on the chopping block), all other AS bases are available at the big 3 pax and big 2 cargo. The big 3 retirement numbers alone justify the jump. I don’t know why young FOs would stay here.
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Originally Posted by OCCP
(Post 2655670)
But BM said this merger is about growth! What a joke of a company
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Originally Posted by Saltlife85
(Post 2655669)
We also have FO’s leaving to Envoy Air for direct captain spots.
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
(Post 2655770)
Good. I don’t want to fly with any F.O’s that fking stupid. Adios!
Instead of being so dismissive, why don’t you step back and look at why multiple people are leaving Alaska for a regional. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 2655782)
Also from what I hear it isn’t just one guy leaving to do this, there’s at least two.
Just messin... It's EXTREMELY hard to justify leaving a top 5 carrier to go to a regional. Especially with all the speculation over what could happen in the next year or two. Everyone needs to do what they feel is right for them. But leaving here to go to a regional is worse than bypassing upgrade at a regional. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 2655782)
Instead of being so dismissive, why don’t you step back and look at why multiple people are leaving Alaska for a regional.
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Originally Posted by IFlyEm
(Post 2655917)
A whole 2 people? :-o
Just messin... It's EXTREMELY hard to justify leaving a top 5 carrier to go to a regional. Especially with all the speculation over what could happen in the next year or two. Everyone needs to do what they feel is right for them. But leaving here to go to a regional is worse than bypassing upgrade at a regional. |
Originally Posted by plt32173
(Post 2656037)
Top 5!? We are close to #7. And this POS scheduling section 25 is worse then any regionals. Nobody should be proud to be a part of this airline.
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This rhetoric is embarrassing! No wonder our management thinks we are a bunch of spoiled babies. You all whine and whine like children. I am a multimillionaire in large part do to this bottom feeder airline. Are you all this far out of touch?
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Just heard from a CP... 6 Captains an 9 FO’s just left for Great Lakes. This place is number 19 now! Give me a brake you idiots and grow up!
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 2655782)
Instead of being so dismissive, why don’t you step back and look at why multiple people are leaving Alaska for a regional. |
Egos being bruised here :rolleyes:
Both of you live in SEA and pick up open time and can't figure out why someone else doesn't want the life you have. No point arguing any of this, the bottom line reality is people are moving on and yes some are gonna do Envoy DEC for AA eventually. |
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656290)
This rhetoric is embarrassing! No wonder our management thinks we are a bunch of spoiled babies. You all whine and whine like children. I am a multimillionaire in large part do to this bottom feeder airline. Are you all this far out of touch?
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Highly unlikely that you are a multi millionaire due to Alaska
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656290)
This rhetoric is embarrassing! No wonder our management thinks we are a bunch of spoiled babies. You all whine and whine like children. I am a multimillionaire in large part do to this bottom feeder airline. Are you all this far out of touch?
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Originally Posted by Ala5ka
(Post 2656399)
Highly unlikely that you are a multi millionaire due to Alaska
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656472)
Just do the math on 17 years in the ESPP program you moron. Your probably too stupid to even realize it’s a good deal. Then throw in some luck and risk, knowing I had a secure job and bingo. I know never mind, sit here ***** and moan like the world owes you something. Sit on your ass and do nothing, yeah that will work!
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656472)
Just do the math on 17 years in the ESPP program you moron. Your probably too stupid to even realize it’s a good deal. Then throw in some luck and risk, knowing I had a secure job and bingo. I know never mind, sit here ***** and moan like the world owes you something. Sit on your ass and do nothing, yeah that will work!
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656472)
Just do the math on 17 years in the ESPP program you moron. Your probably too stupid to even realize it’s a good deal. Then throw in some luck and risk, knowing I had a secure job and bingo. I know never mind, sit here ***** and moan like the world owes you something. Sit on your ass and do nothing, yeah that will work!
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Originally Posted by Max Thrust
(Post 2656499)
Why don’t you go ahead and tell everyone how many girls you’ve slept with too. Complete the triad of déuchiness. Make sure to exaggerate the **** out of that number too cause, why not!
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At least I know the difference between brake and break. Shouldn’t you be looking for some premium trips?
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656298)
Just heard from a CP... 6 Captains an 9 FO’s just left for Great Lakes. This place is number 19 now! Give me a brake you idiots and grow up!
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I'm calling it. We're geting bought.
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2654404)
This is garbage... made $317k last year no perduim or 401k included. Have made $248k so far this year, $350-370k by the end of the year. I live in base, never less then 15 days off. Grow up! I have a couple buddies at SWA that are FO’s... they do not make anything close to me.
That’s because you were picking up all the premium that pilots of good moral character stopped picking up during arbitration. Just think, if all you tools had stopped, we may have had an even higher pay rate to fly at premium!! |
Brake as in stop 🛑
Orcas Island right now enjoying the view... a little smokey but better then yesterday. Come up we can share a red stripe! |
Originally Posted by CassinAK
(Post 2656504)
That’s because you were picking up all the premium that pilots of good moral character stopped picking up during arbitration. Just think if all you tools has stopped we may have had an even higher pay rate to fly at premium!!
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I'm calling it. We're geting bought.
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656510)
We had a contract, the company was going to arbitration from Day 1. Just like our SLI. Don’t be stupid!
If you’r ok with having that reputation then you can live with it. To me my reputation is more important than a few extra dollars. Why don’t you tell us your opinion on contract 2013’s removal of VSA during a furlough? I bet you think that’s when we should be helping the company the most. Never mind our pilots on the street. |
Originally Posted by CassinAK
(Post 2656513)
If you’r ok with having that reputation then you can live with it. To me my reputation is more important than a few extra dollars. Why don’t you tell us your opinion on contract 2013’s removal of VSA during a furlough? I bet you think that’s when we should be helping the company the most. Never mind our pilots on the street.
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656522)
Nope. I hate it. Never picked up when we had guys out. Will never pick up when our contract is past it’s amendable date.
Just add “when we are in negotiations” to that list and we are good. |
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656506)
Brake as in stop 🛑
Orcas Island right now enjoying the view... a little smokey but better then yesterday. Come up we can share a red stripe! How cheap can you get? |
Originally Posted by cmrflyer
(Post 2656550)
No wonder you have tons of money if you’re sharing a bottle of beer.
How cheap can you get? Hey, it could be a keystone light! |
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656500)
My life is pretty boring that way. Happily married for many years though. I guess my morals and priorities are just a little different then yours.
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Trolls.
Don’t feed them. |
Originally Posted by Max Thrust
(Post 2656567)
And those priorities would be obsessively grandstanding on an anonymous message board while “at Orcas Island”. Got it lol
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OTZ you crack me up .. Glad Alaska is treating you so well sir! Maybe I’ll have the pleasure of flying with you one day and you can tell me all about the stock market, ESPP, 401k tips, picking up OT, etc. Then we can go out on your boat and have some beers on you! Can’t wait!!
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It’s strange because I hate you and like you all at the same time
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2656598)
Grandstanding? Right just telling you all to grow up! The pity party is embarrassing... that’s all. Boat says 70 degrees, stop whining and go enjoy. No keystone light, I remember the days though. Red Stripe, Corona, and a couple of stray negra modelo’s. You are welcome to any of them... 🍻
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I'm calling it. We're geting bought.
The ESPP is the real deal. Well as long as Otz gets the price to rise singlehandedly with his premium flying.
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I wonder what AS will do with PenAir if they win the bid.
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 2655365)
Well that is putting words in my mouth. I said “I don’t care about commutability”, just like you don’t care about the number of turn lines. But yes, I care about scheduling... I want a 6hr per day guarantee, I want holiday pay, override for backside flying, no preferential bidding, and 200% premium pick up.
Check back and see what I pick up summer of 2020. Our contract expires March 31, 2020. |
Originally Posted by FNGFO
(Post 2656587)
Trolls.
Don’t feed them. |
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielreed/2018/10/02/jetblue-at-a-crossroads-kick-the-big-three-where-itll-hurt-most-or-convince-one-of-them-to-buy-it/amp/
Another potential buyer is Alaska Airlines, which is just beginning the complex process of integrating the operations of Virgin America, which it bought earlier this year. But it is not clear what value a deal to buy JetBlue, if Alaska could even pull it off, would bring to Alaska’s investors? The two did not compete much head-to-head, which is a merger positive, until Alaska acquired Virgin America, which competes head to head with JetBlue on some transcontinental routes. But there do not appear to be many good, natural points where JetBlue passengers could connect to the Alaska network – or vice versa. Without such connecting opportunities a combined Alaska-JetBlue network could struggle to be anything more than two non-compatible parts bolted together. |
I notice that the old Virgin A320s haven't been painted yet. Any rumors about who Alaska is selling them to?
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