Proudly All Boeing?
05-29-2019, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
That is why you are a pilot. They did and it’s done. Alaska was rewarded for its loyalty to Boeing when others were running for the exits. We will all be better for it. I honestly don’t think Airbus was ever really in the running though.
05-29-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
Alaska was told by Boeing, that the plane certification process will be completed by the end of June.
05-29-2019, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
That is why you are a pilot. They did and it’s done. Alaska was rewarded for its loyalty to Boeing when others were running for the exits. We will all be better for it. I honestly don’t think Airbus was ever really in the running though.
As you stated the Airbus was likely done here from the start, and as another poster said the 2nd MAX crash sealed it. It will happen faster now because we can get the worst plane in the Boeing fleet at fire sale prices and on an accelerated delivery schedule as forward thinking airlines around the world cancel orders. Just out of curiosity, why are we all better for it? Without beating the long dead Boeing vs Airbus horse yet again, what makes it better for us, as pilots to have only one fleet? I see it as an obvious cost saver for the company to be single fleet, but I don't see how it helps the pilot group to reduce options.
05-29-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
Alaska is days away from announcing a large 737 MAX order....Count to ten after the MAX certification is complete, the buses will be quickly going away. Yes, pilots have transitioned in both directions. Both D-8s and E175s are not flown by Alaska pilots, they are not on an Alaska Certificate, they are regional planes flown by Skywest and Horizon. I can understand your angst but it is pretty simple.
05-29-2019, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by conquestdz
Just out of curiosity, why are we all better for it? Without beating the long dead Boeing vs Airbus horse yet again, what makes it better for us, as pilots to have only one fleet? I see it as an obvious cost saver for the company to be single fleet, but I don't see how it helps the pilot group to reduce options.
Hopefully someone can come along and tell me why this last bit of optimism I have about working here in the future is misguided.
05-29-2019, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon
The only thing I can think of is potential for more trading flexibility - the more pilots on the airplane, the more likely it is to find someone to trade trips with, split trips, modify pairings, etc. So in that sense it would make sense to have 3000 pilots on one airplane instead of 1000 pilots on the Bus and 2000 on the Boeing. At least, that would be the case at an airline with 21st century scheduling rules instead of the contract we currently have that allows scheduling to deny absolutely everything.
Hopefully someone can come along and tell me why this last bit of optimism I have about working here in the future is misguided.
Hopefully someone can come along and tell me why this last bit of optimism I have about working here in the future is misguided.
05-29-2019, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon
The only thing I can think of is potential for more trading flexibility - the more pilots on the airplane, the more likely it is to find someone to trade trips with, split trips, modify pairings, etc. So in that sense it would make sense to have 3000 pilots on one airplane instead of 1000 pilots on the Bus and 2000 on the Boeing. At least, that would be the case at an airline with 21st century scheduling rules instead of the contract we currently have that allows scheduling to deny absolutely everything.
Hopefully someone can come along and tell me why this last bit of optimism I have about working here in the future is misguided.
Hopefully someone can come along and tell me why this last bit of optimism I have about working here in the future is misguided.
05-29-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I just hope it’s a 1-for-1 fleet replacement. The last thing we need is 73 Buses to be replaced by an order of 50 MAX10s because it’s more seats overall and represents growth to air group.
05-30-2019, 11:44 AM
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God this airline continues to disgust me. Excited to fly the death machine. Highly doubt this will be a 1 for 1 trade. Seeing as this joke of an airline is getting destroyed in the trans con market (ps virgin never struggled hmmm?), they are probably itching to reduce the fleet count.
But hey congrats coworkers, we won our 12th jd power yesterday. Never mind that we actually came in third, by a wide margin, but due to technicalities of jd powers judging criteria JetBlue and southwest aren’t our competitors??????! They are only our competitors in real life and the ones beating us across the country and in California, soon to be Hawaii too.
Congrats guys and gals, we are the Number 1 ranked 3rd place airline!!!’nnn
F this place.
But hey congrats coworkers, we won our 12th jd power yesterday. Never mind that we actually came in third, by a wide margin, but due to technicalities of jd powers judging criteria JetBlue and southwest aren’t our competitors??????! They are only our competitors in real life and the ones beating us across the country and in California, soon to be Hawaii too.
Congrats guys and gals, we are the Number 1 ranked 3rd place airline!!!’nnn
F this place.
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