I thought we already worked for a 10% discount in order to be competitive and thrive. No pay cut will prevent furloughs, save the company from bankruptcy or ensure we recover from this quickly. AS runs as lean on pilots as possible. Does anyone really think a 10% pay cut will cause them to have a change of heart and they’ll all of a sudden run fatter than necessary on pilots?! No Effin way. They’ll cut the exact number of pilots they were always gonna cut....... Not another ****ing dime from me.

+1M, I said it before I’ll say it again this pilot group is already working at a discount. They can pound sand, any union rep that thinks is worth discussing can go back to the line!

You said 40 system wide not per seat. But nice try fudging your numbers to make it seem like you're in the know.

Exactly.







OTZ you’re just taking guesses. There is no accurate information, just educated guesses. Just say that’s your guess instead of portraying info as coming straight from the company.

No one can no anything of substance when it comes to October 1.

But know this. I’d gladly hit the streets over a pay cut. As a junior guy who is likely to be unemployed I’d be disappointed if we did take a pay cut.

I know it would take years or even a decade to get back to where we are now. In the long run it’s better to keep what we have. I’m happy to take one for the team for that. However, I can only speak for myself.


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System wide Anc-Lax right down the coast. The bid was already broken up per seat. Did you see a theme in this bid? Maybe a gender?

I get everything 2nd hand, but it’s a really good 2nd hand!

We would be lucky to not get into a depression in the near future. You’re willing to lose your job to protect pay rates? Seriously? Goes to show you how out of touch a lot of us have become during the “feast” portion of the aviation cycle.

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And how long would it take to get those rates back? Before or after my seniority number is called back? Think long term.

Guessing you are new to the industry. Hopefully someone can mentor you.