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full of luv 04-06-2020 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by SkyKing466 (Post 3025204)
Hey man... OTZ is like really smart and stuff. He has so many friends, and if he told us who those friends are we like totally wouldn't even believe him. Did you know he has a boat and lots of investments? He's really smart that's why... His southwest pilot neighbor comes over weekly to tell him how smart he is and admire his money pile.

We better be careful not to upset him or else we might lose this beacon of enlightened knowledge and insider information!

Well opinions are cheap and plentiful.... that's the thing about a free society, you can ignore and/or pay attention to whomever you most like their message.

OTZeagle1 04-06-2020 10:37 AM

Yes, everyone knows at this point what is going to happen. Why do you think the union is working on an early out program? Yes, laugh chuckle dig, and late July remember who lied to you, and who didn’t.

I will take my nice pants over your bald clueless head any day!

snackysmores 04-06-2020 11:16 AM

So one day of training makes a pilot completely ineligible for an incentive line...ok then...I thought we were trying to save money?

ShyGuy 04-06-2020 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3025310)
Yes, everyone knows at this point what is going to happen. Why do you think the union is working on an early out program? Yes, laugh chuckle dig, and late July remember who lied to you, and who didn’t.

I will take my nice pants over your bald clueless head any day!

What are you spewing now? First, you said the company was looking at an interpretation from the government if they can downgrade people before Sept 30th because a downgrade would not be a furlough or a change in payrates, just an internal job transfer. You said that was coming. Now this post is saying furloughs are coming. Pretty much everyone can see that there will be furloughs in this industry starting October 1st. It doesn't take your magic 8 ball to see that.

NewGuy01 04-06-2020 01:42 PM

But he’s super special. He’s important...


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SIUav8er 04-06-2020 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3025310)
Yes, everyone knows at this point what is going to happen. Why do you think the union is working on an early out program? Yes, laugh chuckle dig, and late July remember who lied to you, and who didn’t.

I will take my nice pants over your bald clueless head any day!

Disagree with the delivery, but anyone who thinks everyone comes out of this mess with a job is delusional.

I think youve made your observation (which I agree with) loud and clear. Why keep posting it? Its like youre trying to upset everyone with the constant reminder.

OTZeagle1 04-06-2020 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3025473)
What are you spewing now? First, you said the company was looking at an interpretation from the government if they can downgrade people before Sept 30th because a downgrade would not be a furlough or a change in payrates, just an internal job transfer. You said that was coming. Now this post is saying furloughs are coming. Pretty much everyone can see that there will be furloughs in this industry starting October 1st. It doesn't take your magic 8 ball to see that.

Downgrades are coming... Wait tell they have the government money 💰 n their hand. Run that up the flag pole, this time make it gets past the puppet of flight ops office.

I am not walking anything back. Downgrades will come soon, my numbers may change a fraction based on a few adjustments. MA you will be a FO

NewGuy01 04-06-2020 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by SIUav8er (Post 3025480)
Disagree with the delivery, but anyone who thinks everyone comes out of this mess with a job is delusional.



I think youve made your observation (which I agree with) loud and clear. Why keep posting it? Its like youre trying to upset everyone with the constant reminder.



Because he is trying to upset everyone. He’s shown exactly what kind of person he is. I’m glad others are seeing it. The fact that union committee chairs are using his user name specifically as how not to behave tells me all I need to know.


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OTZeagle1 04-06-2020 03:59 PM

You all kill me. This is a forum to disseminate ideas, information, and rumor. If you disagree with someone you label and ridicule them. I said relative seniority was not going to happen, not even close. You all dogged me, I don’t know what I am talking about. You all dog Alaska and say it’s a terrible company, I say it’s been a pretty good job, you guys call me an idiot. You tell me I am going to get this incredible contract, I laugh and say it will be economically based. You guys tell me how everyone is going to leave this company because it sucks so bad. I laugh and say no one will really leave. I tell you the company is going to downgrade and furlough after the union repeatedly says otherwise. You label me a liar, tell me I am causing trouble. Really all I am doing is telling you what is really going to happen and that makes me the problem. The problem really is most of you would rather believe a lie then the truth. You want to believe that everything bad that has happened in the past lays squarely on the shoulders of Alaska pilots that have been here more then 20 years. You want to believe your better, smarter, you will finally fix this pilot group because you so fantastically better then those before you. The union hyms and haws about “we don’t know what we don’t know stay strong,” I say that’s a cop out because they know they are just about to get their teeth kicked in. All you guys want to hear are lies, that’s all you will tolerate. Believe away.

NewGuy01 04-06-2020 04:00 PM

You’re still talking?


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