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#31
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We are all afraid to get in trouble. Hostages get taken during contract talks. Now is not the time to be doing anything other than virtue signaling at AS.
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#32
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I agree with the post below, it was probably because you walked up wearing a mask, so he felt like he should also put on a mask. At least that's what I try and do. We are supposed to be wearing them if the flight deck door is open.
#33
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From: 757/767 CA
Not at AS, but it’s become somewhat of a reflex to put the mask on when someone comes into the flight deck. Too many complaints to risk the ire of management. Also seems somewhat polite when considering how spooled up some people get about non-maskers, as irrational is it may be. About a month back a random passenger took a picture of me, mask-less, in the cockpit from the terminal window and promptly posted it to social media blasting me and the company for insensitivity. This is the bizarro world in which we live.
#34
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Not at AS, but it’s become somewhat of a reflex to put the mask on when someone comes into the flight deck. Too many complaints to risk the ire of management. Also seems somewhat polite when considering how spooled up some people get about non-maskers, as irrational is it may be. About a month back a random passenger took a picture of me, mask-less, in the cockpit from the terminal window and promptly posted it to social media blasting me and the company for insensitivity. This is the bizarro world in which we live.
#35
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#36
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Digest that for a second.
Anyone that is scared of a visit from a jumpseater or anyone else is either scared of Covid or their co-workers. Once upon a time the Captain was King, not so at AS. I was written up by a flight attendant and had to answer to my chief pilot, NOT for NOT wearing a mask but for my attitude in regard to masks.
Given that Alaska is a regional airline with regional pilot management mentality I understand why this crew may have drawn mud when you entered the cockpit when they did not have masks on, this is why we have a garbage contract and will never have a contract as good as say JetBlue's first contract. 89 years of arrogance and counting.
#37
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You do not have to wear a mask in the cockpit at AS even if the door is open if it interferes with your duties and the safety of your flight (I can give examples if you cannot work this out for yourself but let's hope things are not that bad here).
Digest that for a second.
Anyone that is scared of a visit from a jumpseater or anyone else is either scared of Covid or their co-workers. Once upon a time the Captain was King, not so at AS. I was written up by a flight attendant and had to answer to my chief pilot, NOT for NOT wearing a mask but for my attitude in regard to masks.
Given that Alaska is a regional airline with regional pilot management mentality I understand why this crew may have drawn mud when you entered the cockpit when they did not have masks on, this is why we have a garbage contract and will never have a contract as good as say JetBlue's first contract. 89 years of arrogance and counting.
Digest that for a second.
Anyone that is scared of a visit from a jumpseater or anyone else is either scared of Covid or their co-workers. Once upon a time the Captain was King, not so at AS. I was written up by a flight attendant and had to answer to my chief pilot, NOT for NOT wearing a mask but for my attitude in regard to masks.
Given that Alaska is a regional airline with regional pilot management mentality I understand why this crew may have drawn mud when you entered the cockpit when they did not have masks on, this is why we have a garbage contract and will never have a contract as good as say JetBlue's first contract. 89 years of arrogance and counting.
Wow. That’s shocking to get a call about your view on masks. I thought for sure I would get a call as well about a shuttle ride, but so far nothing. I just wish people would be allowed to do what’s best for them.
#38
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Bingo. As much as I want a great new contract, I know that the next one will be just ever so slightly less terrible, but not by much.
Given that Alaska is a regional airline with regional pilot management mentality I understand why this crew may have drawn mud when you entered the cockpit when they did not have masks on, this is why we have a garbage contract and will never have a contract as good as say JetBlue's first contract. 89 years of arrogance and counting.
#39
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What makes you think it will be less terrible?
I see Air Group making some very wise moves. Growth at the regional level. This attracts new pilots into the Air Group flying staffing. A pipeline into 737s at QX. No degree required and a preferential interview from QX.
There won’t be staffing issues and as far as Air Group is concerned if I leave and I’m replaced by a flow through pilot from QX with no degree it’s a win. They cost less for 3 years and are less likely to leave because they do not meet the hiring requirements for a real major airline.
If there is an adoption of PBS with the current work rules and staffing model this place is going to get much, much worse.
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#40
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I agree with you. I think at the very best outcome our new contract will be “slightly less terrible”.. I don’t see any measurable gains coming to our quality of life or scope problem
What makes you think it will be less terrible?
I see Air Group making some very wise moves. Growth at the regional level. This attracts new pilots into the Air Group flying staffing. A pipeline into 737s at QX. No degree required and a preferential interview from QX.
There won’t be staffing issues and as far as Air Group is concerned if I leave and I’m replaced by a flow through pilot from QX with no degree it’s a win. They cost less for 3 years and are less likely to leave because they do not meet the hiring requirements for a real major airline.
If there is an adoption of PBS with the current work rules and staffing model this place is going to get much, much worse.
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I see Air Group making some very wise moves. Growth at the regional level. This attracts new pilots into the Air Group flying staffing. A pipeline into 737s at QX. No degree required and a preferential interview from QX.
There won’t be staffing issues and as far as Air Group is concerned if I leave and I’m replaced by a flow through pilot from QX with no degree it’s a win. They cost less for 3 years and are less likely to leave because they do not meet the hiring requirements for a real major airline.
If there is an adoption of PBS with the current work rules and staffing model this place is going to get much, much worse.
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