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noodle 01-16-2022 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3354097)
I don't have any idea why Alaska pilots struggle to compare against their peers.

Yes, you're kicking the Home Depot stock boy's *ss in W-2s. That's not the point.

I feel like there's an intentional blind spot that keeps the lifers from acknowledging just how far behind they really are.

I couldn’t agree more! I don’t get it. Maybe a coping mechanism? I mean, no one likes to hear how bad their job sucks compared to their PEERS. Especially when you were part of the group that let it happen. Of course being an airline pilot at an 80+ year old airline is a better job than many other jobs. That is not the point! I’m way better at football than my 9 year old and his friends! I mean, I smoke ‘em! They have no chance of tackling me! I must be awesome!

EskimoJoe 01-16-2022 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3354097)
I don't have any idea why Alaska pilots struggle to compare against their peers.

Yes, you're kicking the Home Depot stock boy's *ss in W-2s. That's not the point.

I feel like there's an intentional blind spot that keeps the lifers from acknowledging just how far behind they really are.

I know exactly how far behind we are. That’s why I’ve voted no for decades now.

flyprdu 01-16-2022 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by noodle (Post 3354105)
I couldn’t agree more! I don’t get it. Maybe a coping mechanism? I mean, no one likes to hear how bad their job sucks compared to their PEERS. Especially when you were part of the group that let it happen. Of course being an airline pilot at an 80+ year old airline is a better job than many other jobs. That is not the point! I’m way better at football than my 9 year old and his friends! I mean, I smoke ‘em! They have no chance of tackling me! I must be awesome!

The imagery of you stiff arming a 9 year old and then celebrating has me rolling.

flyprdu 01-16-2022 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by EskimoJoe (Post 3354106)
I know exactly how far behind we are. That’s why I’ve voted no for decades now.

If you know how far behind you are, then maybe voicing your concerns before the TA ballot hits your inbox is advisable.

"Voting no for decades" doesn't seem to be working.

NewGuy01 01-16-2022 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3354136)
If you know how far behind you are, then maybe voicing your concerns before the TA ballot hits your inbox is advisable.

"Voting no for decades" doesn't seem to be working.


He doesn’t want to be a whiny whiner like you!


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av8or 01-16-2022 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by EskimoJoe (Post 3354046)
Exactly. Same Whiney minority over and over. I hit the federal all sources maximum 401k contribution in 2021 as I do every year. That’s more money alone than most people earn in a year. I get 15 days off a month, max savings and cleared well over 300k. I have the maximum insurance of everything that’s offered. Compared to a regular job, I’m not complaining. That said, I still have never voted for any contract here. Things need improvement but it’s hardly the sweat shop whiners wish it to be.

Then why do you think it is that for some reason nearly every other domestic and international airline (that’s not a regional) gets pilots from Alaska to their ranks but, for some reason our class breakdown doesn’t ever seem to include one theirs coming here? Wonder why that would be?

Junglejuice 01-16-2022 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by EskimoJoe (Post 3354106)
I know exactly how far behind we are. That’s why I’ve voted no for decades now.

JC I get tired of hearing that same old line from AS Captains!!!! The truth is that you guys were asleep at the wheel and never saw everyone passing you. Kasher was a long FN time ago too. Stop it and grow a pair!!

MinRest 01-17-2022 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by EskimoJoe (Post 3354106)
I know exactly how far behind we are. That’s why I’ve voted no for decades now.

And how has that worked out for you? For us?

All Bizniz 01-17-2022 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by EskimoJoe (Post 3354106)
I know exactly how far behind we are. That’s why I’ve voted no for decades now.

So given that you know that, and has voted no for decades as you say, why are you so condescending to the pilots who have/are expressing their utter frustration, anger and discontent?

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NewGuy01 01-17-2022 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by All Bizniz (Post 3354285)
So given that you know that, and has voted no for decades as you say, why are you so condescending to the pilots who have/are expressing their utter frustration, anger and discontent?

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