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Old 09-20-2022 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Tell the US Census. Because they believe California actually lost population.



Or perhaps you can get Atlas Van Lines to tell them. Now there is an authoritative source.


Maybe they’ll give back the Congressional District too:

Um, a THIRD of US states lost population in 2021….yawn.

Sorry if the facts don’t help the “people are fleeing CA because of the radical left” narrative … but them’s the facts. The facts also remain that there are still too many damn people on CA roads, not enough housing, and not enough water. So stay away, and if you don’t like it, just leave…

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...c-report-finds
Old 09-20-2022 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
You always just disregard posts that clearly and very plainly prove you wrong.

Wow, I’ve got a stalker!! And I thought this was just going to be a normal day…

I’m wrong that CA has not lost more people per capita than every other state? Um, no, unless you can’t do math.

That CA has lost people is not the point I was contradicting—CA has too many people from my point of view and has grown relentlessly for decades. I’m addressing the common theme that CA leads all states in people fleeing because of politics…which is BS, and cargodog’s sources confirm it too.

But thanks for playing, it was cute.
Old 09-20-2022 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by av8or
Pretty sure the only “conservative wish casting” in all the other states is that Cali gets its shizzle together so they DO migrate back.

That’s funny and very true. But for folks who don’t need to be in CA every day to work, or can afford second homes, they’ll prob never return.
Old 09-20-2022 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by majorpilot
That’s funny and very true. But for folks who don’t need to be in CA every day to work, or can afford second homes, they’ll prob never return.
I live there. There's a net influx of wealthy retirees from snow country and especially high-income people who can now telecommute. That's driving up prices and rents.

That's good for california.gov because taxes.

The people leaving are the folks who work for a living, esp middle class including the lower tier of upper middle class (which includes a lot of pilots). There is a slight net population decline over the last 2-3 years.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I live there. There's a net influx of wealthy retirees from snow country and especially high-income people who can now telecommute. That's driving up prices and rents.

That's good for california.gov because taxes.

The people leaving are the folks who work for a living, esp middle class including the lower tier of upper middle class (which includes a lot of pilots). There is a slight net population decline over the last 2-3 years.
Look at the political shift of places like Orange County and Pasadena. Used to be staunch republican now all moving to the left. I'd argue that it's the blue collar conservatives, sick of far left policy, stupid high COL, and taxes, are the ones fleeing to places like Texas, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, and Florida. Then they get there and realize their conservative by California views are far left by local standards and they unfortunately set about to turn their new home back in to California.
Old 09-20-2022 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by majorpilot
That’s funny and very true. But for folks who don’t need to be in CA every day to work, or can afford second homes, they’ll prob never return.
First of all, talking about California in generalities is a fools errand. The state is like 5 different distinct states mashed together, geographically, economically, and politically.
Old 09-20-2022 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
First of all, talking about California in generalities is a fools errand. The state is like 5 different distinct states mashed together, geographically, economically, and politically.
Not unlike every other state (excepting apparently Oklahoma):


2016 presidential election by county:

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Originally Posted by majorpilot
Um, a THIRD of US states lost population in 2021….yawn.

Sorry if the facts don’t help the “people are fleeing CA because of the radical left” narrative … but them’s the facts. The facts also remain that there are still too many damn people on CA roads, not enough housing, and not enough water. So stay away, and if you don’t like it, just leave…

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...c-report-finds
As a contrast, here is the population increase in Texas:

2010 25,145,561
2020 29,145,505
A 15.9% increase.

The use of single year estimate data set, 2021, can be fraught with inaccuracies.

From 2010 to 2020 Census, only 3 states lost population. Delaware, Illinois, and South Carolina. That is a far cry from 1/3 in the headline.

Several states did not keep up with the average increases, so lost Congressional seats. That included California.

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Old 09-20-2022 | 12:51 PM
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What are we talking about again? I forgot
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More like, California being California driving people and businesses out.
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