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#141
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Why are you hung up on population inside a state? This isn’t the United Populous of America, it’s the United States of America. The country consists of 50 states and is a Constitutional Republic. Why does it matter where people live, each state gets 2 senators for the Senate. That seems very fair and a constitutional amendment requires 75% so 37 states have to sign off on it. This is an excellent set up. This way, the states have power. Not any one state that some might flock to.
#143
The reason the electoral system isn't "fair" is because all of the states signed on to that CONSTITUTIONAL provision when they joined the union. Presumably many would not have joined if that would have subjugated them to the tyranny of being ruled by the populist whims of people in distant, more populous states. Hmmm, that actually sounds a lot like the American Revolution.
There's a reason it's the way it is.
Don't like it? That's what constitutional conventions are for. Is that too hard? Then try to implement a non-constitutional electoral system and impose that on other states, and see what happens.
There's a reason it's the way it is.
Don't like it? That's what constitutional conventions are for. Is that too hard? Then try to implement a non-constitutional electoral system and impose that on other states, and see what happens.
Further, what about a Constitutional amendment abolishing the Electoral College? A Constitutional amendment requires 2/3 of both the House and the Senate. Then 3/4 of all the states. That includes low population states. Never get approved.
The other option being suggested in state legislatures is their electors would go to the majority of popular vote. These states are highly Democratic states. When the popular vote is Democratic, those states’ electors would have gone Democratic anyway. In effect, no change. When the popular vote swings Republican, their highly Democratic state electors cast would be required to be the Republican slate. Those states would scream blood murder. But they made their bed, and they must lie in it.
#145
When ask what kind of government they came up with, Benjamin Franklin said, ‘A republic, if you can keep it.”
If one does not understand the difference between a direct democracy and a republic, they need to read up on it. They are different.
If one does not understand the difference between a direct democracy and a republic, they need to read up on it. They are different.
#147
I’m in favor…keep my federal tax dollars at home…Texas was once a country, they’re probably good with it too.
Everyone could move where they’re happy, let’s see how that would work out. A new CSA=rescind voting for women, disfavor non-Christianity, and mandate other “traditional” values. Paradise for many very vocal red-staters whose only problem will be losing all that federal $$ they now receive in excess of their taxes paid. Small issue, maybe they will entice businesses to stay/move there. Win/win. What’s not to love?
#148
Population of Oklahoma: approximately 4 million.
Population LA County: approximately 10 million.
I could go on.
California is definitely unlike every other state. It's like its own country. And like it or not, when 1/8 of the US population lives there, yes their laws wag the rest of the country.
#149
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The problem with your argument:
Population of Oklahoma: approximately 4 million.
Population LA County: approximately 10 million.
I could go on.
California is definitely unlike every other state. It's like its own country. And like it or not, when 1/8 of the US population lives there, yes their laws wag the rest of the country.
Population of Oklahoma: approximately 4 million.
Population LA County: approximately 10 million.
I could go on.
California is definitely unlike every other state. It's like its own country. And like it or not, when 1/8 of the US population lives there, yes their laws wag the rest of the country.
#150
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I’m not sure the founding fathers could imagine how extreme population and therefore power has gotten distributed.
21 of the smallest states make up roughly same population as California. They have 42 senate votes, California has 2. That’s wild.
21 of the smallest states make up roughly same population as California. They have 42 senate votes, California has 2. That’s wild.
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