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Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3497945)

Not unlike every other state (excepting apparently Oklahoma):

2016 presidential election by county:

https://i.postimg.cc/yxdYJJDx/72257-...7-E11341-E.png

The problem with your argument:

Population of Oklahoma: approximately 4 million.
Population LA County: approximately 10 million.

I could go on.

California is definitely unlike every other state. It's like its own country. And like it or not, when 1/8 of the US population lives there, yes their laws wag the rest of the country.

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3499731)

Vote no. Thanks.

I’m not sure the founding fathers could imagine how extreme population and therefore power has gotten distributed.

21 of the smallest states make up roughly same population as California. They have 42 senate votes, California has 2. That’s wild.

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Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 3500382)

21 of the smallest states make up roughly same population as California. They have 42 senate votes, California has 2. That’s wild.

Sure would be wild if we didn't have the House of Representatives. Oh, and how many electoral votes again?

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3497876)

Look at the political shift of places like Orange County and Pasadena. Used to be staunch republican now all moving to the left. I'd argue that it's the blue collar conservatives, sick of far left policy, stupid high COL, and taxes, are the ones fleeing to places like Texas, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, and Florida. Then they get there and realize their conservative by California views are far left by local standards and they unfortunately set about to turn their new home back in to California.

Yep.... you're right. Here's a great video showing just that... ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDWzN6TW5Y

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3500461)

Yep.... you're right. Here's a great video showing just that... ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDWzN6TW5Y

Lol. It's funny because it's true.

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3500447)

Sure would be wild if we didn't have the House of Representatives. Oh, and how many electoral votes again?

The Senate has the power to confirm judges, the Senate shapes the judicial branch. Voters in small states have way more power to affect the judiciary than those in larger states.

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Originally Posted by nene (Post 3497928)

First of all, talking about California in generalities is a fools errand. The state is like 5 different distinct states mashed together, geographically, economically, and politically.

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Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3497945)

Not unlike every other state (excepting apparently Oklahoma):

2016 presidential election by county:

https://i.postimg.cc/yxdYJJDx/72257-...7-E11341-E.png

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3499731)

You clearly didn’t understand what my “argument” was (and it wasn’t an argument, it was a statement). Ie, there is considerable political diversity in almost EVERY State. Even hard core Oklahoma has 33% Dems. They just happen to be spread out more evenly in Oklahoma than other states.

But if you look at the general trend, the nesting habits of Repubs tend to be the sparsely populated rural areas, those of Dems tend to be the big cities, and the suburbs are pretty much split. Nothing special about CA in that regard. It’s just bigger and more populous than most states.

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Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 3500382)

Now compare the House of Representatives.

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Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 3500382)

Back in the 1790s, two or three states had more population than all the others of the 13, combined. They set it up that way. Intentionally. To have everyone work together, so they set up the House, to give bigger voice to the high population states and the Senate to give bigger voice to the low population states.

All laws have to be passed by both. Everyone had to work together.

That’s wild, isn’t it?

Wisdom.