Originally Posted by miker1 (Post 3498093)

What are we talking about again? I forgot

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3498804)

The reason the electoral system isn't "fair" is because all of the states signed on to that CONSTITUTIONAL provision when they joined the union. Presumably many would not have joined if that would have subjugated them to the tyranny of being ruled by the populist whims of people in distant, more populous states. Hmmm, that actually sounds a lot like the American Revolution.

There's a reason it's the way it is.

Don't like it? That's what constitutional conventions are for. Is that too hard? Then try to implement a non-constitutional electoral system and impose that on other states, and see what happens.

Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3498816)

Tyranny of the populous states. Tyranny of the minority states.

Either way, someone loses.

But know this, the Electoral College is nothing more than Affirmative Action for voting.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3498822)

Waste of breath. Don't like it, convene a constitutional convention.

And it's not "affirmative action", it's just a manifestation of the constitutional sovereignty of the several states. If you want to take away what's left of that, maybe you should invade?

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3498865)

Why should 10 of the most populous states that have 50%+ decide for the other 40 states? Tyranny of the populous state isn’t an answer either. We are a Constitutional Republic.

Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3498867)

Not even the bluest or reddest state is monolithic. Most states fall within 10 points margin between parties.

Let's not be hyperbolic. No states live under tyranny if the one who receives the most votes wins.

This is just more up is down misdirection

Also, the solution is simple. If you want to win races, have popular positions.

Originally Posted by ChickenFinger (Post 3498893)

So you want to abolish the electoral college, and wait for all other airlines to get a new contract before us….

Ooooooooooooook…..

Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3498867)

Not even the bluest or reddest state is monolithic. Most states fall within 10 points margin between parties.

Let's not be hyperbolic. No states live under tyranny if the one who receives the most votes wins.

This is just more up is down misdirection

Also, the solution is simple. If you want to win races, have popular positions.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3498921)

That only works if the US population is spread evenly among 50 states. It is not. 10 states have more than half the US population. Electoral College is not affirmative action. The US is a Constitutional Republic and this method ensures 10 states don’t get to overrule the other 40.