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Old 10-01-2022 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon
Sorry, who did you think chooses who's in Congress?
the Illuminati?
Old 10-02-2022 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
Good?

I would say not letting the general public vote for a president would be even better, let congress choose the president.
Americans are stupid.
you think Marjorie Taylor Greene is a better voice for president than you are?

but also, that would still mean more representation in the vote for certain constituents than others
Old 10-02-2022 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
So... I'm just spitballing here... but what do you think it would do to the US economy, politics, and national defense if CA, OR, and WA took Rick's advice decided to secede? Would a civil war erupt? Would that be an amicable divorce? What if the country broke into several countries? Say the Northeast blue states, the southeast red states, Texas, the red prairie and mountain states, the blue upper midwest, then the west coast? How about that scenario? Could the rural states who hold their votes over the rest of the country's heads survive? I mean since we are openly suggesting civil war, let's go big or go home.

Or we could, I dunno, reform the electoral college and representational structure in a way to make it more fair and satisfy the majority. That option sounds easier and better for us all to me. What isn't going to help is the increased trenching and saber rattling.
See, this is where the liberals just lose the plot, and I don't blame them per se because they just simply weren't taught or even exposed to opposing viewpoints and being forced to defend their views because that is "triggering, microaggression, insensitive, not inclusive, etc. etc. etc." I think liberals of today are weak, uncultured, intolerant, arrogant, bigoted, and probably the most racist I've ever seen in the western world. That's why it cracks me up every time I see them screeching about them accusing anyone in GOP of anything of the sort. It's downright comical because they are that unaware and ignorant. The good news is that ignorance can be fixed and so can unawareness. The question is what causes the learning to occur.

I love the libs talking about civil war. How many would forego their pumpkin spice latte and pick up a weapon? Who would they fight and where? I mean, these people are supposedly all about diversity, equity and inclusion, yet they can't tolerate an opposing viewpoint, articulate theirs, nor are they receptive to the concept of agree to disagree. Talk about being confused! And when it comes to fighting an actual civil war, do you liberals really think you have a chance? You think the military is gonna be there to save you? This is one small example of their overall ignorance I was talking about. The military is the first entity that falls apart from within in any civil conflict regardless of how strong it is. How do you think cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle would fare in a civil war? You can literally starve them out by blocking access points and people inside would become animalistic within days. Have things gotten so bad that you are willing to forego your latest latte and go impose your version of diversity, equity and inclusion by violent means on those who disagree with your version of it?

Trust me libs, you don't want a civil war. You would be annihilated and those who survive would learn a very painful lesson. It's like a kid who wants to put their hand on the hot stove, and you're warning them to not do that. The kid being a smart ass puts their hand on it and burns their hand pretty badly and now it's time to cry and scream in pain and regret. That's what a civil war in this country would bring to most liberals. You don't want that. Instead, you want to re-learn the art of listening. You want to re-learn the art of having an open mind and welcoming having your thoughts and opinion challenged as opposed to finding it a microaggression or triggering. You also may want to think about what you're preaching about "diversity" and realize what that really means. No, it doesn't stop at one's race or the severity of one's gender dysphoria as you've been taught. No, diversity really means finding out what unites a city slicker from San Francisco, that cattle rancher in Montana, and the neighborhood restaurant owner in Iowa. What do they all have in common, and build on that. Believe me, despite our political differences, we have far more in common than you think. You're just choosing to focus on what separates us vs. what brings us together. This is why we have Electoral College. It forces that city slicker from San Francisco to look for common ground with that cattle rancher and the restaurant owner in Iowa. That's how you build unity and not create a tyranny simply because there are many more city slickers concentrated in a single spot. That's why it's absolutely genius.

So cool down the rhetoric. No, your political opponents aren't the reincarnates of the worst evil that plagued this planet. Stop with the hyperbole and using incendiary language and start working on lowering the temperature. Realize the evils of the social media and the echo chambers that the social media algorithms provide - if you believe the earth is flat, you can surround yourself with the like-minded people on social media platforms and those social media platform algorithms are going bring every last flat-earther together to form an echo chamber and anyone who comes in saying the earth isn't flat is gonna be a pariah there. Same goes for politics. Same goes for religion. This is what diversity really means. Too bad the Democratic Party doesn't see it like that anymore. They used to, but they radically shifted and that prompted many lifelong Democrats to switch to GOP, and quite a few in my family. Learn from history, because if you don't, we're bound to repeat it.
Old 10-02-2022 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
See, this is where the liberals just lose the plot, and I don't blame them per se because they just simply weren't taught or even exposed to opposing viewpoints and being forced to defend their views because that is "triggering, microaggression, insensitive, not inclusive, etc. etc. etc." I think liberals of today are weak, uncultured, intolerant, arrogant, bigoted, and probably the most racist I've ever seen in the western world. That's why it cracks me up every time I see them screeching about them accusing anyone in GOP of anything of the sort. It's downright comical because they are that unaware and ignorant. The good news is that ignorance can be fixed and so can unawareness. The question is what causes the learning to occur.

I love the libs talking about civil war. How many would forego their pumpkin spice latte and pick up a weapon? Who would they fight and where? I mean, these people are supposedly all about diversity, equity and inclusion, yet they can't tolerate an opposing viewpoint, articulate theirs, nor are they receptive to the concept of agree to disagree. Talk about being confused! And when it comes to fighting an actual civil war, do you liberals really think you have a chance? You think the military is gonna be there to save you? This is one small example of their overall ignorance I was talking about. The military is the first entity that falls apart from within in any civil conflict regardless of how strong it is. How do you think cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle would fare in a civil war? You can literally starve them out by blocking access points and people inside would become animalistic within days. Have things gotten so bad that you are willing to forego your latest latte and go impose your version of diversity, equity and inclusion by violent means on those who disagree with your version of it?

Trust me libs, you don't want a civil war. You would be annihilated and those who survive would learn a very painful lesson. It's like a kid who wants to put their hand on the hot stove, and you're warning them to not do that. The kid being a smart ass puts their hand on it and burns their hand pretty badly and now it's time to cry and scream in pain and regret. That's what a civil war in this country would bring to most liberals. You don't want that. Instead, you want to re-learn the art of listening. You want to re-learn the art of having an open mind and welcoming having your thoughts and opinion challenged as opposed to finding it a microaggression or triggering. You also may want to think about what you're preaching about "diversity" and realize what that really means. No, it doesn't stop at one's race or the severity of one's gender dysphoria as you've been taught. No, diversity really means finding out what unites a city slicker from San Francisco, that cattle rancher in Montana, and the neighborhood restaurant owner in Iowa. What do they all have in common, and build on that. Believe me, despite our political differences, we have far more in common than you think. You're just choosing to focus on what separates us vs. what brings us together. This is why we have Electoral College. It forces that city slicker from San Francisco to look for common ground with that cattle rancher and the restaurant owner in Iowa. That's how you build unity and not create a tyranny simply because there are many more city slickers concentrated in a single spot. That's why it's absolutely genius.

So cool down the rhetoric. No, your political opponents aren't the reincarnates of the worst evil that plagued this planet. Stop with the hyperbole and using incendiary language and start working on lowering the temperature. Realize the evils of the social media and the echo chambers that the social media algorithms provide - if you believe the earth is flat, you can surround yourself with the like-minded people on social media platforms and those social media platform algorithms are going bring every last flat-earther together to form an echo chamber and anyone who comes in saying the earth isn't flat is gonna be a pariah there. Same goes for politics. Same goes for religion. This is what diversity really means. Too bad the Democratic Party doesn't see it like that anymore. They used to, but they radically shifted and that prompted many lifelong Democrats to switch to GOP, and quite a few in my family. Learn from history, because if you don't, we're bound to repeat it.
You're low-key threatening genocide here, but we should just "cool down" cuz you're not "the reincarnates of the worst evil that plagued this planet".
Old 10-02-2022 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LonesomeSky
You're low-key threatening genocide here, but we should just "cool down" cuz you're not "the reincarnates of the worst evil that plagued this planet".

Thank you for proving my point.

What do you think a civil war is? Here’s a clue… it’s the worst type of warfare with some of the worst atrocities.

I actually came to this country as a kid with two suitcases who actually fled one and yes, you’re absolutely right…. It was a genocide, or in our case, “ethnic cleansing.” Do you want that here?

Trust me, it would get much worse, and I’ve actually seen it and lived it. Have you?

Yes. Cool down.
Old 10-02-2022 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
See, this is where the liberals just lose the plot, and I don't blame them per se because they just simply weren't taught or even exposed to opposing viewpoints and being forced to defend their views because that is "triggering, microaggression, insensitive, not inclusive, etc. etc. etc." I think liberals of today are weak, uncultured, intolerant, arrogant, bigoted, and probably the most racist I've ever seen in the western world. That's why it cracks me up every time I see them screeching about them accusing anyone in GOP of anything of the sort. It's downright comical because they are that unaware and ignorant. The good news is that ignorance can be fixed and so can unawareness. The question is what causes the learning to occur.

I love the libs talking about civil war. How many would forego their pumpkin spice latte and pick up a weapon? Who would they fight and where? I mean, these people are supposedly all about diversity, equity and inclusion, yet they can't tolerate an opposing viewpoint, articulate theirs, nor are they receptive to the concept of agree to disagree. Talk about being confused! And when it comes to fighting an actual civil war, do you liberals really think you have a chance? You think the military is gonna be there to save you? This is one small example of their overall ignorance I was talking about. The military is the first entity that falls apart from within in any civil conflict regardless of how strong it is. How do you think cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle would fare in a civil war? You can literally starve them out by blocking access points and people inside would become animalistic within days. Have things gotten so bad that you are willing to forego your latest latte and go impose your version of diversity, equity and inclusion by violent means on those who disagree with your version of it?

Trust me libs, you don't want a civil war. You would be annihilated and those who survive would learn a very painful lesson. It's like a kid who wants to put their hand on the hot stove, and you're warning them to not do that. The kid being a smart ass puts their hand on it and burns their hand pretty badly and now it's time to cry and scream in pain and regret. That's what a civil war in this country would bring to most liberals. You don't want that. Instead, you want to re-learn the art of listening. You want to re-learn the art of having an open mind and welcoming having your thoughts and opinion challenged as opposed to finding it a microaggression or triggering. You also may want to think about what you're preaching about "diversity" and realize what that really means. No, it doesn't stop at one's race or the severity of one's gender dysphoria as you've been taught. No, diversity really means finding out what unites a city slicker from San Francisco, that cattle rancher in Montana, and the neighborhood restaurant owner in Iowa. What do they all have in common, and build on that. Believe me, despite our political differences, we have far more in common than you think. You're just choosing to focus on what separates us vs. what brings us together. This is why we have Electoral College. It forces that city slicker from San Francisco to look for common ground with that cattle rancher and the restaurant owner in Iowa. That's how you build unity and not create a tyranny simply because there are many more city slickers concentrated in a single spot. That's why it's absolutely genius.

So cool down the rhetoric. No, your political opponents aren't the reincarnates of the worst evil that plagued this planet. Stop with the hyperbole and using incendiary language and start working on lowering the temperature. Realize the evils of the social media and the echo chambers that the social media algorithms provide - if you believe the earth is flat, you can surround yourself with the like-minded people on social media platforms and those social media platform algorithms are going bring every last flat-earther together to form an echo chamber and anyone who comes in saying the earth isn't flat is gonna be a pariah there. Same goes for politics. Same goes for religion. This is what diversity really means. Too bad the Democratic Party doesn't see it like that anymore. They used to, but they radically shifted and that prompted many lifelong Democrats to switch to GOP, and quite a few in my family. Learn from history, because if you don't, we're bound to repeat it.
Wow. Feel better now? That sounded like the angry Hitler video. Dayum.

Also pretty rich that you spew many paragraphs of hyperbole, stereotype, and name calling, then call for peace and less hyperbole.

Let me help you out a little.

1. I'm not a liberal. I'm a staunch moderate who voted for Reagan, all the Bushes, Bill Clinton, Obama, and Trump in my life. So your grievances against the "libs" fall on deaf ears. They sure as hell don't care what you think after that rant.

2. I'm from out west. Even though I'm a conservative leaning guy, I believe in "live and let live". Mutual respect. That's why gay hipsters from SF can drink with a Montana rancher in a bar in Las Vegas and get along. You sir wouldn't be welcome because you've shown you have no respect just disdain.

No go back to your ridiculous alt right echo chamber and stroke it to Lauren Bobo. Those of us trying to find common ground have no use for guys like you.
Old 10-02-2022 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Wow. Feel better now? That sounded like the angry Hitler video. Dayum.

Also pretty rich that you spew many paragraphs of hyperbole, stereotype, and name calling, then call for peace and less hyperbole.

Let me help you out a little.

1. I'm not a liberal. I'm a staunch moderate who voted for Reagan, all the Bushes, Bill Clinton, Obama, and Trump in my life. So your grievances against the "libs" fall on deaf ears. They sure as hell don't care what you think after that rant.

2. I'm from out west. Even though I'm a conservative leaning guy, I believe in "live and let live". Mutual respect. That's why gay hipsters from SF can drink with a Montana rancher in a bar in Las Vegas and get along. You sir wouldn't be welcome because you've shown you have no respect just disdain.

No go back to your ridiculous alt right echo chamber and stroke it to Lauren Bobo. Those of us trying to find common ground have no use for guys like you.

Thank you as well for proving my point as well.
Old 10-02-2022 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Thank you as well for proving my point as well.
Your post is the exact type of argument that proceeds a genocide. Why should you be part of a debate about labor practices in the state of California? It's madness. Please go away.

In your original post replace the word "liberal" with "Jew" or "Tutsi" or "Bosnian Muslim" and it suddenly sounds like the arguments that proceeded some of the darkest times world history.

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