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NotTellin 07-23-2022 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3465653)
I think you need a care bear. Or a hug. Or both. Life must be hard to be constantly pi$$ed at all things related to your own employer. I support myself? I thought I support management. I can’t keep up with the internet tough cats these days.

And your standard response is we are angry. It is never that you might be in the minority and possibly out of touch.

GoodJet 07-23-2022 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by NotTellin (Post 3465656)
And your standard response is we are angry. It is never that you might be in the minority and possibly out of touch.

This thread is a handy reference guide to the position that the participants will take on nearly any issue. The fact that the lawsuit simply means an extra hour of pay for FAs is really telling as well. In addition: many friends from SkyWest are now getting a notice in the mail that similar lawsuits are taking place at other airlines.

Scoop 07-23-2022 01:27 PM

Alaska is it not the only Airline concerned about this. Delta hinted at closing our LAX crew bases but still Hubbing PAX from there if this goes into effect in some way. I am sure other Airlines with CA bases are closely watching this.

Scoop

OTZeagle1 07-23-2022 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 3465668)
Alaska is it not the only Airline concerned about this. Delta hinted at closing our LAX crew bases but still Hubbing PAX from there if this goes into effect in some way. I am sure other Airlines with CA bases are closely watching this.

Scoop

Every airline is looking at this. It is a big deal. My guess is everyone will push as hard as they can, if CA doesn’t cave for flight crews, all CA bases will close… Still a little talk of small turn bases… I just don’t think they really do much though. It’s not just JV AS

hydrostream 07-23-2022 09:40 PM

Wouldn’t hotel costs and per diem for overnighting crews would be more costly than an extra hour of pay? I’m not seeing how closing the base saves money.

LonesomeSky 07-23-2022 10:02 PM

Read the transcript of the Q2 earnings call. When asked about the future of the CA bases and the effects of this lawsuit, Ben and Shane both dodged answering. Their answers were non-answers. They sounded as confused as the rest of us.

There's no-way California loses all of its crew bases. Something will give. The CA legislature will change the law. They will carve something out for flight crews.

Or, maybe not? Maybe all hubs and bases will move to the most labor unfriendly states in the union? You thought the RLA and union dues were bad? Just wait until your only recourse is Texas's right to work laws.
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dera 07-24-2022 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by ExFokkerFlyer (Post 3463699)
Alaska's legal team appealed that, and SCOTUS elected to not take the case. So it's actually settled law. I'm sure there will be filings and motions around the edges, but from what I understand. It's done. If the Supreme Court does not take a case that's made it all the way up to them... it's over.

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Its over, like Roe v. Wade was. Or Plessy v. Ferguson etc. All it needs is a better written and argued case to make it's way through the system.

ExFokkerFlyer 07-24-2022 07:40 AM

I meant that this case is over. Specifically THIS CASE. There was speculation here in nerddome that it could be sent back up. It can't.

But you are correct the issue at question has a variety of ways to be solved. Another case would take years but yes that could be an avenue.

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Margaritaville 07-24-2022 08:49 AM

People have been saying California would pay a price for its policies ever since the 60s when they passed vehicle emissions standards and basically made the rest of the country follow. Almost anything you can buy in a hardware store carries a warning label that that item "is known to the state of California to cause cancer". California has the highest taxes, the most wacko leftist policies, out of whack home values, filth, homeless taking over the streets, and public drug use, yet people keep flocking there and the policies get even more nutty. We can complain all we want to but California will be just fine this time too and people will continue to flock there. Californians deserve California. Live and let live. Keep all the leftist nut jobs concentrated in one place I say.

But what's truly funny is the most leftist, woke airline of them all is complaining about California's leftist policies and threatening to leave CA over them.

ShyGuy 07-24-2022 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by NotTellin (Post 3465656)
And your standard response is we are angry. It is never that you might be in the minority and possibly out of touch.

I’ve only said the that when the post itself has angry connotations inside it. When it comes to APC it is not 3,300 AS voices. It’s about the same 30 people over and over again.


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