ShyGuy

Because only 40 of those spots are in LAX. The majority are in SFO. And the fact we award vacancies first, then process reductions. There will be many displacements on this bid award.

flysnoopy76

Plus an additional 50 or so people they left of the list to be reduced apparently.

GoodJet

It doesn’t really matter what seat position you’re in. Bad morale is not fun here are some examples:

- If you’re a captain sliding over from the Bus, I’m guessing it won’t be fun to fly with a downgraded captain.

- FO not senior enough to get holidays off? Have fun flying with a captain that used to get holidays off. Or a captain who had a line and is now covering a sick call on a day he could normally call out sick from or hold off.

- I probably won’t be able to hold SE in the summers or day turns anymore and I’m friends with a lot of the guys/gals in my relative seniority that I fly with. I have no idea how this will change that but I’m guessing it won’t be for the better. Personally this isn’t a big deal. Until I have to fly with a captain that is not having a good time and missing a family event they didn’t have to miss last year.

I can think of dozens of examples. Some will be severe financial hits. Some will blame others because of the seniority integration. I’m guessing it will be less pleasant to be at work because of the way it was handled. At least that’s what close to 20 years in the industry is telling me. I hope I’m wrong.

GoodJet

The vacancies are filled first. Then the reductions are added in. So if a lot of senior FOs decide to upgrade because they don’t want to wait on the next bid, the 124 reductions reduce 124 JR captains. This is all made much worse by the miscount of reductions by about 50 or so.

ExperimentalAB

The leverage of a pilot group without the weak links such as yourself.

FreqFlyer

So you and everyone you’re flying with just sit there and complain about each other’s schedules & the company the whole time?

Yikes….

rickair7777

I doubt that "a lot" will upgrade... they could have already done that, there was a reason they chose to remain as FO's in the first place: schedule.

Anybody at risk of getting displaced from the left seat is junior enough that they knew about the merger when they got hired. Not like a couple hundred bus pilots came out of nowhere and blind-sided them... this has been coming for seven years And I think the large majority of those at risk of getting bumped were DOH on the SLI anyway.

Bus pilots will not all stay in one base either.

ReluctantEskimo

This is bait. There is nothing that I can say that won't be hand-waved away by you. Your opinions on organized labor are intractable and entrenched, and have been for 15 years. I thought perhaps you might evolve, as your own livelihood depends on its success. But no, there is no evolution for you.

NotTellin

Not much leverage at all since you and others are so willing to give them the Alaska discount.

HostileCombover

I keep hoping that you’ll actually contribute something to the discussion instead of merely observing that many people complain. Yikes…