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Old 04-10-2024 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
LAX CAs were avg 19 days off and 79 hr credit. That's excellent from a days off perspective, but if you're looking for money, that's tough.


Anyone know the difference between the yellow reserve days and purple reserve days? Are purple days the ones reserve pilots didn't ask for but got stacked on?

I know, I know, send a DART. Just thought I'd ask.
The purple days are the days that the stack was dumped on someones line AKA "unstacked".
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Old 04-10-2024 | 12:43 PM
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We are already well aware of just how low your standards are.
keep your spirits high and your standards low. Helps with blood pressure and saves money on weekends at the bar.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 12:15 AM
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As a rather jr pilot (>70%) I was pleasantly surprised with my schedule. Got a line with pretty much what I wanted. Also I was surprised how far down the list the jr line holder was.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DenainaPilot
As a rather jr pilot (>70%) I was pleasantly surprised with my schedule. Got a line with pretty much what I wanted. Also I was surprised how far down the list the jr line holder was.
I am also about 70%, but as a commuter stacking up multiple trips with it has been a complete disaster.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by polymox
I am also about 70%, but as a commuter stacking up multiple trips with it has been a complete disaster.
That kind of thing usually works well with PBS, get somebody to look at your bid.

Unless you're also shooting for high-credit, weekday only, HI or PVR layovers.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii808
as the old saying goes: the problem with their schedule is juniority.

unstacking isn’t the big boogeyman people think it is. Being junior sucks. Get a helmet.
So just some data mining from the results for the base I pay attention to on the Captain side: 64% of the reserve pilots were unstacked for May. 37 pilots on reserve were not. 67 pilots on reserve were unstacked. I think this will become a much bigger issue for the pilot group for July. If the average line value is increased by managment and we see closer to 85+2 hours things could get ugly. It is a holiday month. In addition the majoirty of the block hour increase will be red eye flights. In SEA most of those trips will be ANC or FAI red eye turns and short backs to the east coast. Very few people are talking about this or like you are just outright dismissing it. It is my opinion that July will be a wake up call for many, depending on the ALV and how much the better than 50% pilots want to fly of course.

I chose CA SEA since it is our biggest base and most pilots would like to upgrade at some point.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 12:33 PM
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On the FO SEA side:

28 FOs were not unstacked. 69 were.

71% of FOs were unstacked in Seattle.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 02:51 PM
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I speak only for LA CA, but assume other bases are similar. Line bidding, we had 50-65 reserves and line holders who could bid and hold 75-90 hrs inside step trading, more with vacation and/or training. So more pay for line holders, and more reserves at 75 or 79 hr guarantee.


Now?

43 rsvs. The additional pilots have lines, but now all line holders (except a select few who were able to max out) are holding overwhelmingly in the 70-80 hrs credit.


End result? More pilots on lower paying lines, less overall reserves, and less people they have to pay 79 hrs to sit around. PBS seems to have saved the company some money.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 04:29 PM
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I'm not here to start a PBS vs. line bidding argument. It's water under the bridge now.
Historically, PBS was negotiated and implemented during concessionary times. Airline management's wet deream, indeed. Years prior to acquiring VX, Alaska management told the pilot group that PBS would require approximately 10% less pilots.
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Old 04-11-2024 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I speak only for LA CA, but assume other bases are similar. Line bidding, we had 50-65 reserves and line holders who could bid and hold 75-90 hrs inside step trading, more with vacation and/or training. So more pay for line holders, and more reserves at 75 or 79 hr guarantee.


Now?

43 rsvs. The additional pilots have lines, but now all line holders (except a select few who were able to max out) are holding overwhelmingly in the 70-80 hrs credit.


End result? More pilots on lower paying lines, less overall reserves, and less people they have to pay 79 hrs to sit around. PBS seems to have saved the company some money.
Let's wait and see if the lifestyle crowd can unload their trips to the money crowd.
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