AS/HA Merger & JCBA Discussion
#11
Line Holder
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From: Cessna 205
The company definitely uses any wording and/or omissions to their advantage. One that blew my mind was shared by a senior, line holder captain: If a trip for a line holder is cancelled, the contract says to remain contactable. You tell me what contactable means to you and I guarantee it's not how the company uses the word Hello, grievances. The captain told me there was grassroots effort with this last CBA to define contactable, but the specific wording was removed at the company's request. The company wants the vague interpretation option to remain so they can use to the detriment of the pilot group.
#12
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#13
Line Holder
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From: Cessna 205
Sure, it’s not defined. Neither was a commuter for the hotel LOA. I’d go with the reasonable person approach. If I’m on cancelation makeup I probably can’t get away with checking my email once per day.
#14
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I also wouldn't hang out anywhere near the airport, I'd go home. "Contactable" =/= "SCR"
#15
Line Holder
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From: Cessna 205
amount of time. Definitely not hanging around the airport and definitely not held to a 2.5 hour call out unless actually on reserve. I’ve never gotten any pushback on this or had scheduling try to force anything different.
#16
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To me it means returning a call to scheduling in a reasonable amount of time and making an effort to report for an assignment in a reasonable
amount of time. Definitely not hanging around the airport and definitely not held to a 2.5 hour call out unless actually on reserve. I’ve never gotten any pushback on this or had scheduling try to force anything different.
amount of time. Definitely not hanging around the airport and definitely not held to a 2.5 hour call out unless actually on reserve. I’ve never gotten any pushback on this or had scheduling try to force anything different.
#17
Line Holder
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From: Cessna 205
15-20 minutes has worked for me in the past for returning a call. For reporting I’ve never been asked to report while on cancelation makeup less than 2-3 hours. On reserve I’ve been asked to report earlier but have never been required to. I told them unable but would do my best. I would definitely get there within 2 hours which has the time was the contractual requirement.
#19
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AS is off to a good start, the WORST CEO and COO in HA history! However, they still have a few AA rejects in the pipe according to my classmate. HA Director of Operations is a total AA flunky who swam to a small pond to create chaos. The DO should be next on the chopping block, along with the inexperienced flight managers he hired. This group wasted tons of money promoting and changing SOP's to a foreign operating philosophy. The Chief Pilot is "apparently" from a foreign carrier and believed that full PF/PM philosophy is the only way to go and the US will soon catch up. LOL. Well from what I have been hearing, it's a total disaster, everyone is non-standard and making things up as they go. Captains are being told what to do by FO's, FO's taxing while passengers are puking! LOL My current company had the biggest laugh when I told them what HA flight division was doing. Anyhow, "AS" you need to "CLEAN HOUSE" in flight division and training, it's a disaster!
On another direct-to, HA Pilots are a great bunch of guys and gals! Truly two of the greatest pilot groups will become one! Good luck everyone and I hope you get a leading contract!
Good Luck, In Unity...
#20
On Reserve
Joined: Jul 2018
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Agree with fostro. Taxiing a plane is very difficult and it should only be when your number comes up to become captain, that you are injected with the super hero power to be able to taxi
and we should be flying the airbus completely opposite to how the manufacturer intended
good!
and we should be flying the airbus completely opposite to how the manufacturer intended
good!
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