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Old 09-18-2024 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
LOL, I think options are great and welcome. My problem is you paint a picture that isn’t real. I bring up IL because it’s a tool available to you to make you less miserable that you choose not to utilize even though you say money doesn’t matter to you. So which is it?

I never said I didn’t like you. I don’t like that you constantly misrepresent our contract and our pilot group.
Why would I take a IL during a vacation month???

Either way it doesn't change the fact that all summer long I'm working 6 weeks or so of 6 days on and two days off to get 6 days off a month. It's not misrepresenting anything it's what is happening.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Why would I take a IL during a vacation month???
An IL with 7 days of vacation is actually the perfect situation. 66 hours for the month off. If you have a carry in trip and don't mind working some days at the start of the month, you can have a full pay month of 70-80.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 09:45 AM
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Turns out Alaska/Hawaiian have some strings attached. They have to maintain all of the interisland flights as well as existing Hawaii to mainland routes. Also have to give up some gates in HNL to let competitors grow there.

"DOT conditions for the merger include that Alaska and Hawaiian protect the value of rewards programs, maintain existing service on key Hawaiian routes to the continental United States and inter-island, preserve support for rural service, ensure competitive access at the Honolulu hub airport, and and lower costs for military families."
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Old 09-18-2024 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Why would I take a IL during a vacation month???

Either way it doesn't change the fact that all summer long I'm working 6 weeks or so of 6 days on and two days off to get 6 days off a month. It's not misrepresenting anything it's what is happening.
For a guy who complains about having no time off you have 0 concept of how to get time off.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by polymox
An IL with 7 days of vacation is actually the perfect situation. 66 hours for the month off. If you have a carry in trip and don't mind working some days at the start of the month, you can have a full pay month of 70-80.
I’m glad somebody gets it.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Why would I take a IL during a vacation month???

Either way it doesn't change the fact that all summer long I'm working 6 weeks or so of 6 days on and two days off to get 6 days off a month. It's not misrepresenting anything it's what is happening.
Sounds like you don't want to learn how to get time off. I don't know your seniority but I am a fairly junior CA and I am working 13 days this month and crediting 82 hours. I am quite happy with it.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by polymox
An IL with 7 days of vacation is actually the perfect situation. 66 hours for the month off. If you have a carry in trip and don't mind working some days at the start of the month, you can have a full pay month of 70-80.
You can even bid a short call reserve line with 18/19 off and 84 hours. 2 6 day stretches and you’re done.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Turns out Alaska/Hawaiian have some strings attached. They have to maintain all of the interisland flights as well as existing Hawaii to mainland routes. Also have to give up some gates in HNL to let competitors grow there.

"DOT conditions for the merger include that Alaska and Hawaiian protect the value of rewards programs, maintain existing service on key Hawaiian routes to the continental United States and inter-island, preserve support for rural service, ensure competitive access at the Honolulu hub airport, and and lower costs for military families."
Preserving the route map is the bare minimum of stipulations.

I'm surprised that it was this light. They really got this done for a steal.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 10:38 AM
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Our commuter clause. It's very relaxed as you only have to book one flight with confirmed seat (confirmed jumpseat counts) on HA equipment. 60-ish minutes out. (I forget the exact number as I always give myself a couple hours) Two flights if no confirmed seat or offline. Our JS can be confrimed as you can lock it up by seniority up to 24 hours out. If you are the senior pilot 24 hours before departure, it's a confirmed seat. That COUNTS under this language. All of our 321s and WB planes have two JS's. If I've missed a point on the 1-2 flights, forgive me. I've never needed it to find out.

The 24 hourd prior: It gets everybody to list earlier and lets the junior guys know if they're gonna have a chance of getting on or not the day before. No last minute surprises at the gate. Seniority is 100% honored. Just make sure you list more than 24 hours out. The nice thing about the 24 hours, is that if the flight starts filling up with JS', then you can see it in advance and come up with other plans. NO SURPRISES unless there is a cancellation./delay

Cue the senior people that want to use the less than 5% exception where you need to list at the last minute. Face it, most of us know our commute a few days out. Just list more than a day in advance. It helps us ALL, not just the junior guys. Even me being in the top 25% here, I fully support the seniority at 24 hours. It really works. Try it, you'll like it. I've been commuting since they closed our LAX base, and even at the last minute have not been stranded because we have two JS on every plane going to/from the WC.

Over all, we do have some prety decent work rules in other areas.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rama
I see Joe Sprague is now CEO of Hawaiian.
What is the Alaska pilots take on him?
He is probably one of the nicest individuals I have ever met. Probably the hardest working person I have ever met. He is honestly a wonderful person, highest integrity, and totally down to earth. An absolute unicorn in this industry!
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