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Originally Posted by Jet J (Post 4008086)

If they actually wanted to grow they have had plenty of opportunity to buy airbus. Used or new.

I think that ship sailed in the post Covid boom after 2021 Alaskas bed has been made

but with oil at almost 83 a barrel now and if it continues to go up we may have other issues besides planes if oil keeps jumping up in price

maybe cause we helped out the gulf states they ship us some cheap oil

cue Dave Chappells black bush skit an all time classic

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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed (Post 4008098)

The airlines have always been feast and famine.

Airlines that bet heavily on single fleet lost badly during the biggest travel boom of our lifetimes.

If you are always preparing for rain, you never get to enjoy a sunny day.

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Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 4008105)

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Originally Posted by Jet J (Post 4008086)

If they actually wanted to grow they have had plenty of opportunity to buy airbus. Used or new.

Wall Street rewards revenue growth more than cost cutting (single fleet optimization). Good thing we are slightly less Southwest, than Southwest or we’d be in real trouble. 3 years no growth is a sick company trying to shrink to profitability. Ours is a company waiting to get rewarded by 4 times a fire sale with loyalty/mea culpa pricing on 737s.

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Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 4008102)

There is a reason why I quoted this twice:

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Originally Posted by MinRest
We have hired significantly more than 150 since the announcement, on the AS side. Hell, we hired almost that much in Jan and Feb of this year.

I really don’t understand why you have to keep saying stuff like this, or be so unpleasant about it when I point out it’s flagrantly incorrect. You at least admitted you were wrong about your retirement number claims being more than 2X the reality. I don’t understand why you are now making similar claims about hiring.

The Attrition Report will be out this week, probably tomorrow and it will show the two classes in February. Just like the new hires have told me at the training center. Probably 40 ish. The last student I was paired with said one already left for Delta. Not a bad sign all things considered.

It’s great we are hiring again. It’s great we are still taking 6 MAX 8s this year. It’s a bummer but not as bad as it could have been that we only downgraded 5 so far (not great for those guys) in 2026.

However we lost 178 captains just in 2024 and 2025. We have yet to match this number. In hiring terms we are still lagging retirements.

My claim about hiring has nothing to do with the net gain or loss of pilots. My claim of hiring 150 since the merger announcement holds. We wanted 90 in Q1, and management said they exceeded it. I have no clue why this bugs you so much, but it is what it is.

And do you want to talk about being unpleasant? Shall I post screenshots from your tirade on JC?

How about those new hires and class dates? Seriously you guys are children.

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Originally Posted by word302 (Post 4008216)

How about those new hires and class dates? Seriously you guys are children.

1. Take the fleet/growth discussion to another thread.

2. I'm tired of cleaning up childish insults, infractions and 3-day bans to follow. You can discuss the merits without making it personal.

89 pilots were hired in Q1 of 2026 per the Attrition Report